Danish loudspeakers: Dynaudio & System Audio


Recently, I've auditioned a pairs of Dynaudio Focus 110, I'm pretty impressed with the sound, but if I choose to buy the Focus 160, I'm a bit worry on the bass resonance problem due to rear ported design, some Dynaudio users report such problem too. I'm living in a medium room, where space is very limited, thus I'm considering to audition a pairs of System Audio Mantra 5, same Danish loudspeaker design, seem well regarded from some of the feedbacks, though I have to contact them to check whether any audition available in Malaysia, from the Website I'm able to search out a location though. Anybody heard of the System Audio speakers, any opinions or impressions how it sound?
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Monitor Audio is the only brand to day which all speaker they produce can create a deep and wide stage.

Even the cheapest speakers they produce. The Gold and Platinum can create an even wider and deeper stage than the ones with a dome tweeter.
Dynaudio still use material what does not have a fast response. When the response of a speaker is slower acoustic limitations become bigger. I sold Dynaudio for over 6 years of time. I would not recommended and sell it to my clients anymore. Beside this the cabinets are not the best and most thick either. I sold SA as well, not a brand who makes great speakers. Samething about the crossovers who are very limited. The middle freq. is not very open. Voices need to be more apparent.
I sold Dali for 8 years of time, Dynaudio is of a higher and better level in quality.

These days we only sell 3 dimensional sound. This counts both for stereo and multi channel use. The reason is that all people prefer 3 dimensional sound over 2 dimensional sound. I owned many highend sets of over 100.000 euro and my clienst often said: The sound is awesome but out of reach for us.

So I had to come with a sound what has the same exitement and emotion my sets had.

Monitor Audio uses faster and lighter materials compared to competitors. Have better cabinets ( thicker) with less colouration. Superior crossovers. Monitor Audio is the only brand to day which all speakers ( in their price ranges) they produce can create a deep and wide stage like the best highend speakers can give.

I use all Monitor Audio speakers to the max. When I send my clients to shops to listen to Kef, B&W, Dynaudio, Dali, Focal etc they all come back laughing. The presentations they get are always 2 dimensional.

This is a lower level of quality in sound. I work like this for 8 years of time now. It is the most effective way of selling audio.

I have spoken to many people in over 17 years of time about the sets they owned in the past. All people with 2 dimensional sets ( alomost all sets are 2 dimensional) buy after time a new set or new parts to hope for a higher level. Often they are still not satisfied.

I brought many people from 2D to 3D in the last 8 years of time. They have one thing in common. They use their sets more frequently and longer in time. They also spend more money on music and movies.
We judge every single part of a set on what we call Total
Sound. When we audition sets from 'new' clients, at shows
or at another audio shop in almost all situations it is
what we call 'incomplete'.

In most 'new' sets we need to bring in parts of Total
Sound to make it complete. At the end it is so much more
addictive to listen to any set we 'repaired'.

It is the most effective way of getting the maximum
quality out of a set. All parts of Total Sound influences
our emotion. So when you create a set what will have all
the parts of Total Sound it is so much more addictive and
exciting to listen.

The Monitor Audio speakers in the lower prices own more
parts of Total Sound. So when you use all the parts you
will have a more complete sound. This is what it makes it
so easy to sell.

Audio is all about shootouts and comparing. This is how we
sell it. People always will choose the sound what
convinces the most and is most liked.

Parts of Total Sound:

- Soundrealism: you want and need an instrument to sound
like in real. I use Pass labs amps to the max for this. It
is the focus on sound of each different instrument and
voice. For example: you want to hear the difference
between 2 acoustic guitars of a recording. I always want
to hear the full palette in the mid freq. The timbre is an
essential part of listening to music

- 3 dimensional soundstage: this is the most exiting part
of audio in general. This sets your beloved music in full
3Din front of you. During listening you can focus on each
individual part of a recording.The best sets can even give
instruments the shape as in real.

- Intimate sound:instruments and voices are very small in
dimension and very direct in sound. You want a realistic
proportion of instruments and voices. Intimate sound has
a very big influence on our emotion. During many acoustic
classical live concerts I learned how small a vice and
instruments were in proportion.

- Blacks: The space between the instruments and voices
with their acoustic information during the recording. This
is the level of physical appearance. You want to touch
every single instrument and voice of the recording.
Germans use the word'darstellung'.

- timing and speed: it is a very important part for
authorityand control of the overall sound. Better timing
will give you less acoustic limitaions. But also a more
natural sound.Biside this you also can reveal more layers
of the low freq.

- Resolution: you want to hear all details of the
recording.And it needs to be physical apparent.

- Air: This part gives the instruments and voices the
freedom during listening. Separation makes your music so
much more appealing.

- A big freq. response: When your system goes deeper in
freq.response you will hear more information of a
recoding. Thisalso has a big influence on our emotion.
People can heartill maximum 20 khz. But...the freq.
response above it still influences our brains.

- articulation of voices: how clear you can hear word
endings, breathing of singers and moving lips.

- heights: When I received 2 sets of the Audioquest Wel
Signature xlr's it became more clear than ever. It makes
listening to music different and even more appealing.
We don't focus on a brand, but we test and compare in each
price level. And only choose those products what give the
best results during testing. The best quality wins and we
don't care about a name that much as others.

We can get all flatscreens we want. For each client or
project we only choose the best picture quality you can
get for the money people what to spend.

We use it as a protection for all clients to get the best
possible.

We do a lot of testing and innovation and when we find
better products this will be the new benchmark. It changes
a little over time. We don't know other people like we who
uses audio this way.
When you become aware of all the different parts you judge sound for, you also will understand what these parts do with our emotion. The way we work we use for all brands.

It is not focussed on a brand. The only reason why we use Monitor Audio is that it owns more properties/talents.

The biggest limitations of Dynaudio is response/timing. When they would use lighter and stiffer materials they can make a big step forward!
2 weeks ago we went to an audio show. They also use Dynaudio focus speakers. They also had a hummm problem in the room with the low freq. You need to understand that the main reason is the slow response of the drivers.
If I were you Win I would do a shootout of the 160 against the Monitor Audio Gold 100. They are tested by a person of the HVT. He said: this speaker is without competition.

A shootout will give you the answer......