DAC 'Scam' Vid

Those who claimed that there is no differences between dac are deluded...

But those who claimed there is a big difference between dac are deluded too ...

( i spoke of dac with relatively the same bracket of price, a 100 $  dac dont compare with a few thousand dollars one in a high end system )

 Why ?

 Because it is the threefold well optimized  installation of the system/room in his three working dimensions : mechanical,electrical and especially acoustical that makes possible an audible evaluation of dac or of any piece of gear...

 Then this debate as the one between "objectivist" and "subjectivist" is grounded in a different  complementary ignorance by the two opposite camps...

 It is remarkable that i am almost the only one stating this evident fact...

"Level match a properly working $1k DAC and A/B that with a $20k DAC in the same audio circuit and I'd bet anybody they will NEVER EVER be able to tell which is which."

@wesheadley - Have you ever actually made that comparison yourself, or are you just speculating? 

@mitch2 

I can’t speak for @wesheadley, but I have always level matched my comparisons and the differences are not subtle.

My journey had humble beginnings with several DACs from brands like Topping, Cambridge Audio and others. The best I’ve ever heard in this price range, and probably still the best value for money, is RME’s ADI-2 Pro Black Edition. Super accurate and neutral, as it should be for a pro audio DAC. 

Then I spent several years with a Holo Audio May KTE. The galvanic isolation and careful R2R all made a huge difference, not to mention the possibility to combine with HQP and 1.5Mhz NOS mode to really play with and understand filters.

More recently I’ve gone up the chain to a class-leading network DAC from Esoteric. Please see my system. Is it worth the orders of magnitude higher cost over Holo May? No. Is it an audible difference due to the better clocking and higher quality analogue section? Yes, absolutely. 

FWIW, let me repeat that a DAC is more than the DA conversion in the chip or ladder. It’s also the pre-pre-amp of your system. Saying that doesn’t matter is like saying the phone stage doesn’t matter. But of course, each system/ room is unique, including the room and what’s audible in one might not be in another. 

@hifikenobi - I did check out your system and it is wonderful - thanks for posting it!

Like you, I also find the differences in DACs not subtle.  I recently added an Aries Cerat Helene DAC to my system and, after finally getting it dialed in, I find the sound to be compellingly natural/organic with a mix of clarity, sweetness, bloom, dynamics, and rich tonal qualities that come together in a very convincing manner.  I currently have five other DACs here and can easily pick out the differences between them.

I think it would behoove some to read the majority of the comments prior to hitting enter.