Dac Questions from an Analogue guy :


As you can see from my Forum name I am a vinyl enthusiast at heart but do from time to time have digital needs so to speak. Upon learning that my DAC on my old CAL LABS ICON MKII Cd player seems to be dead as there is no audio out of the RCA's I figured I would use the digital coax O/P utilizing a friends PS audio NUWAVE DAC since I have never used the digital coax out before. I figured the player was not totally dead because of the fact that when a CD was inserted into the transport all the of the CD info appeared on the player. So I gave it a shot and voila it worked with very nice results. Simple, done. My curiosity furthered me into the other connections on the unit being the USB and the optical. I gather the Optical acts as a link such as the digital coax from my CD player but the USB connection puzzled me a bit. Having looking at the specs of the DAC, it of course is capable of 16/44 audio but can also do 24/96 and 24/192. Of the 2 latter formats, how are these utilized? Through the USB say using a computer or note pad device? I did not do any research as you can see, so these questions I know are rather rudimentary. Do correct me if I am wrong, is the 24/96, DVD audio? ANyways, my whole curiosity of this is how one utilizes the USB connections and all the higher resolution audio features of this DAC. How is the overall Audio quality of these formats? What are my options if I want to delve further into this? yeah I looked on the Net and saw a huge plethera of products which confused me even more so you can say I am a bit brain lazy when it comes to this whole digital format.
I do have an Ipod with MP3's mostly for my car but I can't see that being the end to be all to be utilized with the Dac since I personally find that this overlly compressed format to be inferior. Anyways, any answers starting from 0 would be greatly appreciated.
vinylmad814

Showing 2 responses by rcprince

I don't think your ICON player can output anything more than a 16/44 signal, so a lot of your questions might not be applicable just using that transport. Some DACS can "upsample" that signal to higher levels; I have ultimately found that to be a mixed bag, as it adds a bit of noise to the playback. I can tell you that, in my view, the higher-resolution sources, be they 24/96 or 192 via a download or SACD, do sound better than a standard 16/44 CD, closer to (but certainly not the same as) your analog setup. The differences are more subtle, IMO, in that they just make the music sound more like a real event than a reproduction--I'm sure you probably have that feeling listening to vinyl vs. CD. You won't be able to get SACD playback from your current setup; you'd need a transport that can read an SACD and a DAC that will accept and convert the DSD signal; the standard CD signal is PCM encoded, a different system.

For computer audio questions, which may ultimately be the best way to go, you'll need to look elsewhere than me for any specific advice. I can tell you that my Memory Player (which essentially is a computer) does sound significantly better playing a CD from its memory than the same CD played on a very high quality transport (using the same DAC), and I'm sure from having heard good computer setups out there that they can make the same claim. It also is quite convenient, you'll see if a friend of yours has a good computer setup just how easy it is to store, organize and play back music files. You won't have that tactile feeling of putting a record on the turntable/CD in the drawer, but I'm very impressed with what a lot of these computer-based systems bring to the table.
If you lent CDs to your friend, I don't think he can turn them into any hi-resolution files, he only has 16 bits and 44khz to start with. As I said he may do some upsampling, but that won't make them into what I'd consider to be a hi-rez file.

For your basic question, you'll need more help from people who know about downloading and computer audio, I'm not good at that.