Crossing Left and Right Speakers

No. I’m talking about inputting the right monoblock with the left output from the pre.

@erik_squires 

They specifically said, Pre left to Right Amp.

@jimmy2615 

"the instruments were still outside the loudspeakers (but on the wrong side), but to your point what I noticed that surprised me was that there was nothing in the center of the stage, only on the outsides."

That is amazing.... I wonder why. 

@newbee 

Yes, I was certainly in phase. Let me explain, fisrtly I heard about it on the YT vid and I did some experiments afterward. Agin I am in phase. Just curious how this can be. If anyone knows why or how... makes no lgical sense

@decooney 

Yes my QS pre is reversed phase and my dac is switched, so....everything is in phase. My source is out of phase, the signal goes to the pre which has switched phased, so now the phase is IN, it leaves my pre and goes to my amps and the speaks IN phase. If I couldnt tell when my speakers were out of phase, I would have no business listening to music. 

The issue is not about phase, at all, in any way whatsoever. Infact there is no issue, it was a statement I heard in an youtube video about switching speakers. Nothing at all to do with polarity or phase.

@newbee

:-) I am totally completely unequivocally IN phase. Further I never had any issues with sound quality. I heard the statement made in a YT video and I can’t see how it would make a difference. I tried it and it does make a difference. I don’t have any issues with my phase 😂

If I wanted to be out of phase I would just switch the phase on my source. I can tell what out of phase is.

@newbee 

"Since the OP is loosing his center image "

OMG, you guys are trolling me. It's quite funny and I thank you.

Just in case.....I have zero issue with my center stage or any and all stages. There is nothing wrong wi......

ahhh, never mind

🤣

@newbee 

No biggie, I thought is was hilarious. I was having fun. I experimented as well after I watched that video. And it is weird that switching speaker sides can actually have an effect.

@decooney 

Are you guys trolling me?

I don't have a problem with phase, I don't have any problem whatsoever with my sound. I heard in an you tube video that switching the R speaker into the left and vise versa would create a change. I would assume it would just be a mirror image, but it isn't.

I don't have any confusion on what putting a speaker out of phase would do, and I wouldn't be surprised at all that putting a speaker out of phase would in fact put that speaker out of phase.🤣

@zazouswing 

"By flipping the channels in an audio piece you are familiar with, could the brain be more preoccupied with trying to the push the left back into the right channel? The relatively small imperfections,"

Interesting idea. Yes I tried it with music Im not terribly familiar with. The drum issue is funny because some drummers are left handed....

I was a professional drummer for some time and I always notice the reversed drummer, but as I mentioned it is true with unfamiliar pieces. The sound is quite specific too, doesn't sound like being out of phase.

An example I found in a familiar piece was that the bass lines went way back in the center image, very quiet, which would happen if it were out of phase, but it was different, it was physically farther back in the background.

Still the make question is why? why not just a mirror image.

Your Idea makes a lot of sense but it does happen with unfamiliar pieces.

T

@gregdude 

"For example  someone walking across the stage from l to r would appear to start in the center right walk off stage to the right"

I would think he would just go from R to L.

@simonmoon 

Yeah, totally nuts. Last thing I expected. When the YT vid mentioned it I said to myself, "That's a bunch of Bulls**t, but there it is. Some in this thread mentioned it's not every recording, which is even stranger.

Funny, one time in the recording studio we spent 4 hours trying to find an anomaly that just vanished.

Audio is weird.

T

@simonmoon 

Lets see, the album I experienced it on was either, Peo Alfonsi: Amada, or Peo Alfonsi: Alma. These are two separate records, but I can't remember which one it was. And there were a few others but I can't remember them. Might have been New Blood Symphony, the instrumentals download that came with the original Vinyl.

The Alfonsi records are both extraordinary, I bought Alma from Nativedsd.com.

@jimmy2615 

"this recording is binaural"

THIS IS STARTING TO MAKE SENSE. That might be it !!!

@jimmy2615

I noticed instruments move to very strange illogical places in the stage.

@jimmy2615 

I checked and the records I heard the issues on, only one was Binaural.

@avanti1960 

"does the reversed image sound the same if the amps are non-reversed and you turn your head away from the speakers? "

There is no image that way.

T

Well......I guess the answer is, no one knows, maybe the Audio Analyst on YT knows.