Counterfeit Chinese Cables
I thought that I would write this for those who are curious about one of the many counterfeit Chinese interconnect cables that are available these days. I know that there have been threads about the subject before, and I was always curious because they seem to be such a bargain. I don't really recall much about what any members actually said about the performance of these counterfeit cables, and I didn't look back and do any research, but a couple of months ago there was a thread that came around to discussing the quality of Chinese made components, and oldhvymec said something that made sense to me.
He said that people that say that what they are making is junk should consider that much of what is in our gear, and a lot of our American brands are actually manufactured there. I decided shortly after that that I would take the chance on a set of interconnects, because I suspected that the interconnects going from my pre to my amp were the weak link and needed upgrading. The interconnects going from my DAC to my pre were Kimber Select which are very good, but the other set were LAT International (now defunct) which had cost $500.00 when new, but I had reason to believe they were lacking because I have one of their digital cables that turned out to be very poor sounding in comparison to others I own.
I decided on a one meter pair of counterfeit Nordost Odin interconnects for a total of $104.00 from Aliexpress. I received them a couple of weeks later. They appeared to be well made, and the locking fake WBT rca's were very impressive and are very tight.
First impressions after installing them were light, thin sound, lacking bass. Each couple of days brought improvements, but from the beginning I noticed that they were quieter. Now, weeks later, I can say that they are drastically better that the LAT's in every way. Detail and ambience are much better, but it's the focus and separation of instruments that is most noticeable.
I have no way of knowing if they are really a copy of the Nordost design, but I am impressed enough that I am going to try a counterfeit Nordost digital cable.
Obviously, this isn't a comparison that is useful to most, because there probably isn't anyone here using the LAT's, and everything is system dependent. I just wanted to relay my positive experience.
@evank , Every. Single. Time. He trolls, gets angrier, starts cursing and damning people, recites BS talking points and then has the gall to ask the mods to come and close the thread when he doesn't get anywhere. Entirely projection on his part when it comes to "noise". Not even remotely original in his insults too. Like that of a 12 year old. All the best, |
Yes, much ado about nothing. Tempest in a teapot. Sturm und Drang. Angst in their pants. Brought to you by the usual suspects. How many times does this subject have to come up? The rest of the audio world (the other 98% who don't post and read this just for grins & giggles) goes about their merry way, grateful that they never contributed and instead, enjoy the fruits of their labor buying what they want. All the best, |
Is it being argued that buying a "fake" cable from a Chinese distributor is going to kill someone, somewhere in the world? Sounds similar to the plot from the movie, The Box.
Just what's with all the alarmist rhetoric going on? Remember back when Hussein was ruling Iraq? Everyone and anyone who wanted to have a job had to be a member of the Ba'athist party or you'd starve. That same narrow way of thinking led to the US not employing anyone who was affiliated with them (a stupid standard) which led to a massively disaffected and out of work police force and army which spawned ISIS. But hey, we sure did show them, didn't we? Now, fast forward to present day goings on and you have an entire country run by an autocrat who takes a piece of all the action and who has some pretty horrible human rights practices but the general population is just trying to get by. Some of those people are hard working stiffs stuck in that system trying to make a living where there are no laws regarding copyright protections. It's been that way since, forever, and is just their way of life. And some just happen to have very high work standards and pride of work just like here, in the states, and they can turn out some incredibly well made product at a price that's too good to pass up for those who want high quality at a price they can afford. That puts us in this present day, simplistic argument that's not going to make anyone happy as no one is going to budge and neither side should. Go with your own beliefs and moral standards and to those who can rise above and see through the BS, be happy with your choices. And yes, they shouldn't brand their product as the real thing but in the end, it's been repeatedly pointed out that no one is falling for it. Googling the name just gets one to the site with the product they want and that's about it. On those sites are plenty of other similar makes with completely different and original names with some made by the very same people who make the knock offs. How do the naysayers respond to that? Would that satisfy and quench their hate? All the best, |
Throwing in the issue of counterfeit aircraft and brake parts just clouds the issue and is not germane. It's a red herring. While on the subject of fake parts used in planes and cars, what pisses me off is not the Chinese brand trying to pass it off as the legitimate product, but the American businesses knowingly buying it up and passing it off as the real thing. Some unscrupulous Chinese manufacturer can make it but it has to get by all the checks and inspections to finally get used and when buying in bulk (after all the testing and approval) it's not the Chinese who are selling it to the company. It's some unscrupulous American business thats' doing it. All the best,
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with anyone buying something that looks like something else, expecting it to perform somewhat remotely as well as it, all the while knowing that it's not it. It's basically an homage to the original and it's not fooling anyone, especially the buyer. Time to unbunch those panties. All the best, |
See USPTO.gov. and China IPR Toolkit. All the best, |
