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Compatible TV to audio receiver

Read some confusing things and just wanted to confirm, I have an older television with an audio out listed as  470 mVrms, 1k Ohm  and the receiver is listed as audio in of 200 mV with 50k Ohms.  (note this is how they are listed in the specifications.   

for the TV that is for the "fixed" output setting.   I had to change it to variable and control from TV and turn the volume way up to get proper sound from receiver.  didn't seem like I should have had to do that.

Thanks
anthonyds
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millercarbon
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No, that's right. Normal line level is around 1 to 3 volts. Your TV fixed is only half a volt (.47 to be exact) so of course you have to use variable and turn it up to get up over a volt where your receiver is expecting.

The position of the volume knob (or button, display, whatever) is one of the least relevant things in all of audio. Turn it up to whatever sounds best and forget about it.


anthonyds OP
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Thanks for the explanation.  I thought since the "sensitivity" of the receiver was 200 mV, then we should have been fine.

I have a phono jack for a unit that needs preamp with 2.5 mV sensitivity but the S/N is a low 74db.   I would assume stick with the previous option.

Question, does increasing the voltage improve S/N value?  I would believe so.  But I imagine I could go too high.   the specs don't tell me the peak voltage output would be on variable.
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No idea what sensitivity means in that sense.

S/N is a ratio. Changing input levels does not change the ratio. 

74 dB is actually just fine for a phono stage. You're thinking CD players where they can be anything up to and over 100 dB. But being CD players they sound like crap. Little hiss beats digititis, seven days a week.

Phono inputs are not just different in terms of gain. The signal on a record is cut with an RIAA equalized signal. The Bass is turned way down, treble way up. Then on playback this goes through a phono stage that equalizes it back by turning the bass way up and the treble way down. So you can plug your TV into the phono, but its gonna sound awful with massive bass and no treble. Not to mention distorted, because the .47volt input is gonna severely overdrive a phono stage that was designed for cartridge output that is in the range of a few millivolts.


anthonyds OP
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I figured phono was a bad idea.    

the inputs  for sound for video devices on my receiver says the "sensitivity" is 200 mV.    Its my understanding the lower the input sensitivity, the lower the output from the player device that was needed.    Note this is an older model receiver, we're setting up for my son.
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