Comparing Wadia vs. Meitner


I believe that this represents the pinnacle of CD playback. Jerry, a fellow audiogoner was gracious enough to allow me to audition his broken-in Meitner CDSD / DCC2. In my system, the boxes were switched with mine, so they each had the same cables, power conditioning, power cords, and stand. Both were run directly into the amp without a preamp. My CD playback system includes the Wadia 27ix / 270se with the latest software and full modifications from Great Northern Sound. Also included are Elrod Statement power cords, a Hydra conditioner, and a Mana rack.

In short, I think that these are both excellent units. They are also very different in what they do. In my system, it was easy to distinguish between the two within several minutes. It probably comes down to personal preference in deciding which is best here. I’ll just simply say that I’m keeping the Wadia because I think it is a perfect match for my musical preferences, my system, and what I appreciate in music.

What I love about the Wadia is its ability to convey an (absolutely) astonishing amount of detail without being harsh or fatiguing. Not only is the melody and rhythm imaged with speed and coherence, but you can actually appreciate the musicians technique, the weight and color of the instrument(s), and the ambience of the recording venue. It simply presents a convincing image of a live event. The emotional quality is all there. You can understand what separates a great and (justly) famous professional musician from a pretty good one. Everything is properly proportioned, the soundstage is appropriate and believable, everything is audible, and the background is silent. From complex orchestral pieces and opera, to vocals, to solo instruments, I do not believe there are any weak spots. Again, it simply convinces and fools the mind into believing that you are sitting in front of the performance. I have frequented the concert halls, and I’d hate to say it but sometimes the recording is better.

I think that just about anybody could probably be happy with either of these 2 systems. Of course, curiosity makes us wonder if the grass is greener. I am just very content with where I am right now. I'd invite Jerry to make some comments when he gets a chance.

Rob
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Drhst20 was the Wadia you referred to the 861 SE or just 861? could anybody who has done this comparison give some specific sonic impressions of the differences between the two units please?
Drhst20 thanks for your evaluations. They were very specific. saw Fmpnd's system it's quite a bit better than your system how did his system sound compared to yours? I am wondering if you could have been so amazed by his system quality that you couldn't really evaluate the differences between the Meitner and Wadia in just a short time frame? I know I have heard excellent systems before and was so shocked at the difference that it was difficult to comprehend what I was hearing let alone trying to compare two components would not have been possible at that time do to being in shock over the differences I was hearing. if you compared the Meitner in your system I'm sure if would have been easier to learn what the exact differences were over the Wadia simply because it's your system and you know what it's capable of and sounds like. I have a Wadia 861 statement it will be upgraded to SE status and latest statement specification including the new speed of light magnet modifications by GNSC in October I am hoping to do a comparison against Frankg's CDSD/DCC2 combination [hello Frank has the Meitner CDSD transport arrived yet?]. After October sometime if possible. I will post the results if it occurs. Justin Ingram
have been debating whether I should post this or not for awhile now I probably shouldn't have a feeling it's going to offend some people definitely. But here we go hang on.
I thanks to Frankg for bringing his Meitner stuff over we finally directly a/b compared the GNSC modified Wadia 861 se statement with speed off light modifications to the SACD DSD output of the Meitner DCC 2 converter/preamp feed by a Alex Peychev modified Meitner/Phillips 1000 transport both were fed through the dcc2 preamp so switching between units only took a few seconds to accomplish. well the difference was maybe 1 extremely small hair favoring the Meitner SACD performance over the Wadia's Redbook performance,mostly the difference was in top end clarity and delicacy but was very subtle difference and this was with the Wadia playing the Redbook layer of the same hybrid disks the Police and Diana Krall mostly. Now the difference between Redbook was so extremely slight it was barely audible ive heard bigger differences switching polarity on an AC plug orientation actually slightly preferred the Wadia but the difference was so close it really didn't matter. Also thought the Meitner preamp slightly degraded the Wadia sound to me. Really thought the Meitner was vastly superior guess it's really not all that it's actually cracked up to be. Justin Ingram
hello Tim note Alex Peychev modifier Meitner/Phillips 1000 transport which Frankg says was a nice size sonic upgrade over the stock Meitner/Philips 1000 transport so it may possibly equal the CDSD performance?
Henryhk yes very little difference between the Meitner SACD vs. Wadia PCM performance. Yes I would definitely agree the stock 861 would definitely lose vs. Meitner Redbook and definitely SACD performance. The se transport is a good size upgrade and the GNSC statement upgrade is definitely very significant it sounds like a completely different player after modification.
dude where's the edit my post clickable link usually found under my last entry? Tried logging in several different ways still no edit link comes up even tried another browser? Anyway wanted to change modifier to modified in my first sentence in my above post. Justin