Compare: Modwright LS 36.5 & Audio Research LS26

I've compared the 36.5 with the separate PSU to a BAT 51se and a few months later to the 52se. The Modwright was, in my system and to my ears, better in several ways - cleaner, stronger transients, deeper SS with more air and separation. Everything was just a bit more palpable, more there. SS width was similar. All are very quiet. I could live with the 52se, it's great but I like the dynamic transients of the Modwright more. Notes jump, drums sticks THWack (while deep in the SS a brush still sounds like a brush.) Vocals were similar but the Modwright produced the fine details while the 51se was more polite. The 52se really did vocals right but the Modwright had them a touch more forward, which I like, mostly.

I haven't heard an ARC pre in my system yet. I have heard the Ref3 many times at shows and I like it but... If I were to place the sound of these three or four preamps on a scale from tubey to SSey I would say the Modwright sits right there between the 52se and the Ref3 - the Ref3 is not very tubey to my ears, the 52se a bit more. However, with certain fancy NOS rectifiers the 36.5 moves more towards tubey (RCA 5U4G, for example) . I don't think it will ever be considered warm though. Full? Sure. Meaty, sure again. But never syrupy.
The 36.5+ strikes the best balance that I have heard in my system yet between SS like guts - bass and dynamics, the air and shimmer of tubes and the BIG, DEEP soundstage tubes produce when done right.

I just reread your system and I will add that which ever pre you choose, Ref3 or 36.5, you are going to have one fantastic system there. I might venture to say too that your choice might rest more on your TT and cart choice than anything else.

What's your vinyl set up?

Wow. Perfect. It's going to be even more better than I thought.
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Would you agree your set up leans towards more accuracy than romance now? Do you plan on changing up your cart?

My opinion is the ARC preamps may be a bit too lean in your set up - unless you like extremely tight, really crisp sound with the sort of brilliant tonality the Ref3 is known for. I tend towards liking that myself but I have always found the Ref3 one step too far. I have heard the Sophias with ARC amps and the Ref3 several times now. The sound has been great for a portion of the time but for an equal amount of the time I found myself pushed by the lean, almost etched sound. I honestly can't say what was going on - bad recordings, wrong load - I can't remember if it was the TT or the digital that was giving me a headache but it's happened a few times.(I really like the Sophias with BAT tube amps. They add just a bit of romance to the Sophias - which seem to me to sound dry and sterile if not matched up with the right amps.)

Seeing you have already swapped rectifiers in your SWP I imagine you like a bit less of that and more heft, more bloom. The 36.5 has a bit of that but not much. It is a 6h30 pre after all - it's very neutral. Swapping out the rectifier in the 36.5 will do the same as it's done in your SWP so you know what's possible there.

Is the same thing possible with the REF3? I don't know. It'd be good to find out.

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Vett93 asked...

"The Modwright LS 36.5 uses only one pair of 6H30s in the signal path. However, it has both single-ended and balanced inputs. How do you do that with just one pair of tubes?"

Rather than using a dual differential circuit the 36.5 uses two Electraprint step down transformers to produce the balanced outputs.

"Can you explain the differences between the standard dual differential balanced circuit and the implementation Dan
chose for the LS 36.5? Do other designers use the same approach?"

Probably not well enough to do any good. LOL.

I just tried to write a nice, succinct explanation but, after rereading the several paragraphs a few times, I decided I was way out of my depth. In any case...

The 36.5 uses the Electraprint transformers as phase splitters to produce the balanced signal outputs. Using a dual differential circuit would have produced the same balanced output but then that would be a whole different beast of a pre, wouldn't it?

I'll assume Dan didn't want that for reasons of cost and complexity and purity of design etc...

But I'm guessing.

The reasons for having a transformer coupled output is pretty straight forward. You get a balanced output (for CMRR) and you get a lower output impedance for driving amps with low input impedances. Are there compromises to doing it this way? Probably, there are always compromises, but someone with more knowledge than I have needs to step in to explain what they might be.

As for others doing things this way, I assume it's the standard way to get a true balanced output from a SE circuit.

Would I could be more helpful...