Coincident vs Lamm


I currently own the Coincident, Frankenstein, 300b monoblock amps. In my system, they are by far the best I have ever heard and I've heard quite a few. I think once you live with a set amp of this caliber, you won't go back.
A friend has offered to sell me his Lamm 2.2 set amps at a really great price but I'd probably have to sell the Franks to do the deal. I have not heard the Lamm set amps so I really don't know how they compare. Does anyone here have experience with these amps?
markus1299

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Markus,
Do you know 213Cobra (Phil)? He's very knowledgeable and has good ears. He has substantial experience with the Franks, Lamm2.1, Audion 845 SET, Golden Dream 300b PSET and Atma-Sphere OTLs, send him an email, he's a nice guy.
Charles,
I agree, if possible try the Lamm SET in your system and listen. The Lamm
is 6x the cost retail of the Frankenstein and has more power. As you already
know personally the Franks are superb but many people feel the same
about the Lamm as well. You'd expect the Lamm to be superior(35K
amplifier) and everyone has opinions on what would be the better amplifier

. You have an actual opportunity to judge for yourself in your own system ,
opinions of others aren't nearly as valuable. Either way you choose you'll
have a first class SET amplifier. These amps are certainly different in design
approach and circuit, output tube etc. Lamm could likely have more bass
and drive and the Franks possibly more nuance and transparency, just a
guess. I have much respect for both of these companies.
Best Regards,
Charles,
Brf,
Did you hear the Lamm with your Total Eclipse and have you had a chance to hear the Frankenstein MK II?
Thanks,
Hi Dkarmeli,
Transparency and nuance are a Frankenstein strength, but Markus owns this amp and knows its attributes. You and I know listening to both and comparing is the best, otherwise opinions can be traded endlessly.
Charles,
Hi Brf,
Let me know what you think of the highly thought of Wyetech Ruby, you can post on my system thread if you'd like.
I've heard the Lamm ML3 several times but haven't heard the ML2.2 amp.
Charles,
No amplifier is in a class of its own ( hyperbole )even though it may be fantastic. Owners of Audion, Tron, Absolare, Zanden, Kondo, Wavelength etc. Could legitimately claim the same.
I accept that there are truly wonderful SET choices in the marketplace and everyone has their favorites. I just hope Markus can listen to the Lamm he's considering, sounds like fun to me.
Charles,
Are you disappointed Markus? I think it would have been an informative and
fun experience hearing them in your very nice system. There'll be other
opportunities.
Charles,
Bill,
I've heard the Lamm ML 3 driving the big Wilsons on 3 occasions and the combination was very impressive. I'll assume a family sound with their ML2.2 amplifier. Just as impressive if not more was hearing the Viva Aurora driving the Trenner Friedl speakers under the same show conditions, utterly life like and so impressive. Another example, Tron Telstar 211 SET driving the large Cessaro horn, excellent. I understand what you are saying, but it's all pure subjectivity at any given level.
Charles,
Hi Markus,
I see your dilemma, it may still be worth your time to travel and at least hear
these acclaimed amplifiers If you can't get them in your system.
Brf's suggestion is good, only problem is you'd have to sell your
Frankenstein to swing the deal (and what if the Lamm doesn't suit you?).
You have a terrific system now but I can certainly understand your interest
in the Lamm SET as well. You're thrilled with the Franks so this is your
template. You can listen to your friend's Lamm system and try to
extrapolate to the best of your abilities.
Charles,
Insurance would presumably cover any potential shipping damages. Ideally the Lamms need to be heard in Makus' s system and compared to his current amplifier. You just never know until you hear a component with your own ears.
Charles,
Hi Markus,
I have much admiration for Lamm and their earned accolades and logic
would suggest that a 37K amplifier should be clearly superior to a 6K
amplifier. That may turn out to be the case. In High End audio there are
exceptions to expectations despite price discrepancies, sometimes. You
need to hear this fine amp in your system and settle endless speculation.
You're very pleased with your present amplifier and have said it's the best
you've had so far in your home. If the Lamm's performance surpasses it,
congratulations you now have a new amp in your system. If it doesn't
(merely different), you're left no worse off with your current Frankenstein.
You won't lose with either outcome and stand to possibly gain. Good luck
Markus.
Charles,