Coincident UHS speakers,,,,,,anyone own a pair?

I should clarify my statements about the Coincident Triumph UHS a bit more regarding the lower frequencies.

In comparing them to another very good speaker, the other speaker used a porting alignment to give the impression of full bass and the ability to go low. The result of which is a bump in the midbass, which most people mistake for bass extension. The test for this is to turn the volume up a bit, and see if the sound becomes congested and the bass "wooly", which it did.

Again, I cannot really complain about this - many, many, many speaker designers go this route, and the public prefers it in most instances.

The Coincident did not do this, and to behold that was a revlation. Not that the speaker was bass shy, to the contrary. The Coincident went lower than the other speaker, with the bass remaining clear and cohesive. Israel did a great job in this design, balancing the cabinet, driver, crossover, and port to obtain this result. Bravo!

Great to see you again, Sutts. Thanks for the compliments, but I think you are much better qualified to be a reviewer than I.

The dealer also had the Partial Eclipse and the Victory. Neither of which did we listen to, which I guess is unfortunate. My friend was looking for a small monitor for his low powered amp to mate with in a second system.

Despite most people's impression, when I came across the Victory, it proved to be the first Coincident speaker I didn't think to much of. In hindsight, I should give it another chance, especially in light of what I heard from the Triumph UHS.

Again, the Triumph UHS simply made a believer out of me. Israel hit a home run on this one. We listened to a lot of speakers, and there were just two I would ever put my hard earned money on. And, the Coincident, in my opinion was the better of the two.

In addition, the sensitivity of the Triumph UHS was a great thing. I know that whatever amplifier I ever had, I could drive the speaker.

I guess I take Coincident for granted, since I own a speaker which was considered a "statement" type product. But, even the lowest product on the totem pole left me impressed to a degree I didn't think possible. The more I go out and listen to other speakers, I realize how fortunate I really was to make my purchase.

Thanks for clarifying the driver Israel. And, congratulations on producing such a fantastic speaker! I don't believe there is a better speaker at $1200.

From my audition of the Triumph UHS, I would say you would be a very happy camper pairing them with your SET, Meech33. My friend's goal was to find a good match for his lower powered integrated amplifier. Although this amplifier is rated at 25 wpc, it really is quite close to an SET. Finding a loudspeaker that would play at a normal volume for him(and he listens at quite low volumes) without having the volume up to 90% proved to be a challenge. However, I believe the Coincidents proved to be the easiest loudspeaker that he came across. There was no question the amplifier could drive them to pretty high volumes.

I certainly hope the Victorys I listened to were broken in Sutts, but you never know. Yes, long break - in times were always a complaint when it comes to Coincident, but if they are any worse than any other, what can we do? Although I have not heard the Total Victorys, many say they are a special product.

By the way, I will discuss this in another thread soon, but the AR TDS 202 is something anyone with a lower powered amplifier should definitely try if their loudspeakers are taxing the amp. I am not sure how it works, but this passive(yes, passive with a capital P) device DEFINITELY ups the volume quotient considerably. As an example, with the TDS unit in place, it had the Green Mountain Europas producing the same volume at the amp's 40% setting as it did at 90% without the unit! Absolutely astonishing.

I had the chance to accompany a friend on Saturday in auditioning a few small speakers, the Coincident Triumph UHS included.

To be fair, we had been looking, along with another friend at many loudspeakers over the past week or so. For the most part, just about none of the loudspeakers were products I could actually buy and live with. The Coincidents were speakers I could definitely buy and live with.

For the record, the speakers I found myself liking the most featured the Vifa P17 midwoofer such as the Coincident Triumph. A really special driver, especially at about $30. No wonder so many highly regarded loudspeakers feature this driver; great sound at a fantastic price.

I was most surprised by the level of detail they presented. The level of refinement at this price point was the best I have come across. Midrange and treble were truly good. But, what really impressed me most was the bass response. Many small speakers "tune" for a bass response in which they appear to go lower and fuller than they actually do. It isn't a bad solution, as the vast majority of people like this. The Coincident did not do this. Instead, in my opinion, the speaker combined its cabinet, crossover, and port to present very clear and coherent low frequency response.

Every loudspeaker represents a series of compromises. This speaker chooses to go with smaller size and fewer drivers. At this price, I am not sure one can do much better.