Clement Perry's new reference speaker

I agree with some of the above posts. Some brands are shooting stars; they appear out of nowhere, are ll the rage for a while, then disappear. During their moment in the sun, the 'gon is loaded with ads for people selling them, then they seem to disappear from the used market. It seems like one enthusiastic person can create quite a stir. Items like the Audiomecca Mephisto, ReimyoCD player, Stellavox amps. I always wondered what was going on. Do people buy them, find out they weren't worth the hype, and sell, so that the same few units get sold here repeatedly, until the price is low enough that the person at the end of the chain keeps it? Of course, none of the owners is willing to say they were disappointed in the product, lest they then have trouble selling it, or after selling it, offend the person they just sold it to.

So what? There are people for whom money is no object, and these products are of interest to them. If you're pulling in a million a year, these speakers are about a month's salary. Many of us would consider spending a month's pay on speakers. Not everyone is married, not everyone's spouse hates audio gear. If money is no object, hiring millwrights shouldn't be that big a deal; I have a freind who owns a clock shop; the owners of one beautiful old Boston townhouse with stairs too narrow to fit their tall clock through hired millwrights to remove a window and swing the clock in on a crane, and the clock cost a lot less than the Sunnys. Rodney Dangerfield hired a helicopter to get his hot tub into his NYC apartment. If you're in that league, you may have a house big enough to dedicate to an acoustically designed music room. The best part is that when they get bored with their stuff, they sell it here, so those of us who are not as wealthy can eventually own some of the top equipment.

Mrjstark - I'm not in that league either. But I don't expect someone with a lot more money than I do to limit himself to the same equipment that I can afford. If spending $400K gets a much better system, and a person has the $$to do it, I have no problem with that. I do understand your point about having heard the speakers and not being impressed with them. If they really aren't that good, then I would say, yeah, it would be foolish to buy them, no matter how much money you have. I have been to CES and I agree that there seems to be very little correlation between equipment cost and sound quality. I have also been unimpressed with equipment that got lots of great press. I have not heard the Sunnys, though, so I have to go by what I read here - everyone who has posted who has heard Clement's system says it is exceptional; when you heard the Sunnys at CES, they were just good. For now, I will accept both accounts. There's more to a system than speakers. If Clement Perry has achieved state-of-the-art sound by spending a lot of money, I say good for him. I am especially impressed by his willingness to let total strangers into his house to hear it all.
In terms of being honest, I don't think I have said anyhting dishonest or hypocritical. I have looked at your system, though, and I would say that you are up farther in the clouds than I am. You have some very nice equipment, and the remodelling work is very impressive. I would like to do the same some day. However, I would ask that you be honest and realize that to most people, spending the thousands of dollars that you have on equipment would be silly money,and then reconfiguring rooms for the sake of sound would be way over the top. I know people who considered their $350 desktop Bose all-in-one a major splurge, and enjoy listening to it very much. They would definitely think what you (or I) do is way beyond the realm of common sense.
Just pointing out different points of view.

Well, Mrjstark, I think you've explained your point of vfiew a bit more clearly, and I certainly agree with some of the points you are making.

We are all entitled to our opinion, whatever that opinion might be. But what gets me the most is, the opinion that becomes "the formula" that is being introduce as the rule for rest to follow.

'I agree entirely. But I think this applies for all budgets, from hundreds of dollars to hundreds of thousands of dollars. There shouldn't be a formula that says spend $12,000 on your system, more is a waste, less isn't good enough.

A real value vs performenc in real live scenario is a question I am asking.

A perfectly valid question, and one for which the Sunny is clearly not the answer. The question for the Sunny would be What is the best cost-no-object speaker. The answer may or may not be the Sunny. You clearly think not, based on your first hand experience. Others who have heard them in CP's system think maybe they are the answer.

. It is not just Sunnys .........it is the whole set-up and most importently
- executioner.

Agree 100%. But the Sunnys are definitley a big part of it. And this may explain why they didn't sound so good at CES. I alway thought it was a cop-out when exhibitors blamed the room for bad sound, but at one CES one fo my favorite rooms had Ascendo's big speakers. Another room had the same speakers, but didn't sound nearly as good. The first room was on the ground floor, whereas the second room was on a second floor that was so soft that by lifting my heels .5 inches and dropping back down, I could get everything in the room to shake.

I do NOT want this to become personal.....becouse

It is not personal to me, because I have never met you. Anyone on here might be very nice in person, or maybe a total idiot. It is very easy to misinterpret a person's intent on emails or postings, because you can'thear the tone of voice. So I give everyone here the benefit of the doubt, and assume they are nice until they prove otherwise.