Clean ground


I’m wanting to establish a clean ground for my audio equipment. I get power off batteries, so live and neutral is not an issue. However, I have components that require ground/earth. I do not want to use the ground from the wall sockets as that will probably noisy.

Has anybody establish a separate ground for their audio equipment? What is the best way to go about it? 
Thanks.
pauly

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@pauly

You said:
Correct.Nothing touches a wall socket with the exception of the three prong plug that provides access to ground.

I charge when I’m not listening.

In the rare event that I want to take input from, or output to, a device that is plugged in on a wall socket, I use an audio engine Bluetooth connection. There is never a physical connection between components on battery and components on mains.

1.) I have active cables that do not work if not connected to ground.

Question:
Does both battery(s) pos B+ and neg B- float with no reference to the metal chassis of any of the audio equipment that is connected to the batteries?
B- is not connected to chassis?
Metal chassis would act as an antenna I would think if it was not connected to B-.

1.) I have active cables that do not work if not connected to ground.

I am having trouble seeing the loop, closed circuit, to mother earth ground and back to the source, the batteries.

Test:
Measure for DC voltage from B+ to chassis.
Measure for DC voltage from B+ to metal enclosure of battery charger. (charger left connected to battery(s).)
(I assume charger uses a 3 wire cord and grounding type plug.)


Quote from Henry W Ott:

"Electromagnetic Compatibility Engineering"

Grounding Myths

4. To operate with low noise, a circuit or system must be connected to an earth ground. False, because airplanes, satellites, cars and battery powered laptop computers all operate fine without a ground connection. As a matter of fact, an earth ground is more likely to be the cause of noise problem. More electronic system noise problems are resolved by removing (or isolating) a circuit from earth ground than by connecting it to earth ground.

5. To reduce noise, an electronic system should be connected to a separate “quiet ground” by using a separate, isolated ground rod. False, in addition to being untrue, this approach is dangerous and violates the requirements of the NEC (electrical code/rules).

6. An earth ground is unidirectional, with current only flowing into the ground. False, because current must flow in loops, any current that flows into the ground must also flow out of the ground somewhere else.

@pauly

When it comes to audio I’ll believe anything until proven otherwise.
https://www.auralthrillsaudio.com/battac.htm


As for a "Clean Ground".
I see you live in the NE. Assuming soil in your area is not excessively sandy and is black dirt and clay rod to soil resistance should be fairly low.

Installation:
Drive at least two 5/8" x 10ft copper clad ground rods into the earth at least 10ft apart from one another. Drive the rods at least 2ft minimum away from the house’s foundation wall. 3ft is even better. Drive rods 4" to 6" below grade if rods will be in a grassy area for mowing. Distance from foundation wall is for soil moisture created from rain fall that may be inhibited from roof soffit overhang. Use 5/8" ground rod clamps to connect ground wire size of your choice to the two rods. Run ground wire continuous from the inside of the house to the first rod and unbroken to the second rod. Dig trench 4" to 6" deep to bury ground wire and protect from possible damage.

Lightning protection....
IF it were me I would disconnect the ground wire from the active cabling during a lightning storm. Even a nearby lightning strike will travel through the earth and could travel up the ground rods and follow the ground wire into your home.
After you install your dedicated isolated grounding electrode system I would ABX listening using the isolated grounding electrode system to using the EGC (Equipment Grounding Conductor) from the wall outlet branch circuit. If you cannot hear a difference I would suggest you use the EGC.

Example of 5/8" ground rod clamp.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RACO-5-8-in-Ground-Rod-Clamp-5-Pack-R22BAG5R/205843263

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