Chinese fake cables How fake, how good?


I have noted a number of warnings about cheap Chinese fake cables on this site but curiosity led me to the Aliexpress site where I found a number of presumably fake big name cables from predominantly Cardas, Nordost and Siltech at about 15% of the USA or Australian price. I found Cardas Clear Light interconnects at about US$100 and decided what the heck let's give them a try at that price. Before buying I asked the seller the daft question as to whether they were genuine and got the reply that they were an OEM and constructed the interconnects from genuine Cardas cables and connectors. They arrived in a plastic bag rather than the Cardas box , not a great start but the cables looked real, and when connected, much to my surprise, they sounded really good. After 100hours or so burn in they sounded great and better than the Nordost Quatre Fils I had been using. I then took them to an Australian hi end dealer who sold real Cardas and asked rather ingenuously whether my cables were the real deal. The dealer would not commit but agreed to compare them to the real thing on a set up costing at a guess around A$100,00. Neither I nor the sales person could tell any difference so he then tried them against the Cardas Clear. Then there was some difference, not extreme but subtle, and certainly IMO not worth the price difference even if you bought the genuine Cardas Clear Light. So are these cables really fake and even if they are given my experience they are well worth a try. Maybe I'll try Nordost Odin or Siltech 770i next.
mazian

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MY background is in Track & Field Athletics 

In 2014 I was asked to consult with the Italian Mondo company which specialises in making the best synthetic running tracks in the world 

It's an area they absolutely dominate - having won the contracts to build the last 7 Olympic Tracks 

Their attention to detail is superb & we were getting our regional track produced by the exact crew that lay the last 4 Olympic Tracks

It is a 6 week process & I got to know the team very well so our club took them to Perths top seafood restaurent as a mark of appreciation for what they had done for local sport

The head engineer told us the story of building Beijing's Olympic Track

Mondo gave the Chinese a very good contract rate but in turn Mondo were signed up to build 100 tracks arround China

The primary Mondo team worked on the Olympic Stadium & assigned 2 Mondo engineers to oversee the 1st 10 of their regional tracks

All was going well until Mondo reps noticed work had started on 30 tracks without supervision by Mondo

By the time the Olympic Tracs were finished Mondo sent their top crew to go round the Chinese Copy Mondo tracks to fully diagnose the issue

Apparently the early all Chinese Tracks were utter crap 

Legal issues ensued & the Chinese paid a suitable fine but continued to build the balance of the 100 tracks with their own teams - manufacturing the weaved rubber for the track, laying a bitumen compound base that can't warp over time or the track becomes illegal for competition

My friend, the chief engineer from Mondo checked out a few of the latter tracks at the Games

He said after about 30 completed tracks he absolutely could not tell the difference between the genuine Mondo versions & a Chinese copy

I'm not saying buy Chinese but don't underestimate their forging skills or the intellegence behind this type of swindle

All the best 

I do love my 2 pair of Kharma interconnects but sadly a bargain $1500 ebay purchase on the 2nd pair tuned out to be fake 

Yes there is an audible difference - but only a touch of high end harshness on some female vocalists

Certainly no more than 5% but in a world of purity - it hurts

Matt