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i experimented myself with many "tweaks" with success..

Schuman generator modified grid... Ionizers... my "golden plates" etc...

But in my audio experience with these "tweaks" so good they could be, and some are, NOTHING compare to acoustic control of the room and the tuning of the room.. I just created a thread about acoustic... No reactions 😁😊 ... People like what they can see, and touch,  especially any shining object like speakers, dac or amplifiers... 😁😊 acoustic devices  dont have  sex appeal...

i say that because those who mock all "tweaks" users and experimenters, are the most DELUDED consumers there is and ever will be...

They think that most of the sound level quality they listen to come from the gear FIRST AND LAST...

Sorry but acoustic science say the opposite: sound quality mainly come from the SPEAKERS/EARS/room relation FIRST AND LAST... The gear quality and those tweaks are in between this FIRST and this LAST... Acoustic rule...

Then before upgrading know how to control electrical noise floor of the house, control vibration, and control acoustic...

Anything else is consumerism ignorance ...

And before mocking a "tweak", TRY TO replicate it yourself and experiment..

All my knowledge in audio is small yes, but consist of evidences for me coming from years of experiments with no cost products and no buying of any upgrade...

Mainly coming from basic acoustic...Helmholtz know better already about sound than most anyway even BEFORE EDISON invented the phonograph in America or Charles cros in France.... ( Edison invented less than what we think by the way)

And the Greek architect know more about acoustic and the Egyptian priest than the average audio consumer or reviewer...Egytian Priest were using Helmholtz resonators before Helmholtz to increase their control of acoustic for temple cremonial magic...

The doubt of a sleeper lie under the pillow and the doubt of those awake  lay over the pillow...

 The question is not to doubt or not.... Even dreamers doubt...

The question is am i awake and able to verify and experiment by myself ?

Audio threads are full of people doubting and prey to consumerism  conditioned superstition...

Their doubt is the expression of a faith or empty opinion...

Answering three words insulting posts is not being harsh especially if one of my friend is target sorry.. . I am no saint...

And you misunderstood my post about acoustic...

First: i ever and always say that all my room tuning, the passive treatment and the mechanical active control part were always NO COST and made by discarded materials from one dollar store or my basement..With many months of listening experiments...

Second: all room varied in the passive material treatment needed, the balance needed for each specific room between absorption, reflection and diffusion is NEVER the same...There is NO RECIPE here contrary of what is said everywhere... Acoustic method work with specific speakers, specific acoustic content, specific geometry and specific topology of the room and specific different ears history and structure...No ready made recipe work save acoustic hearing experiment... I dont sell panels i give information...I sell creativity...

And the active mechanical control in a dedicated room is ALWAYS necessary... Why?

Because the speakers and the room MUST be bent to one another, the specficity of the room must be bent to the speakers specific demands and your specific ears... the the speakers must be controlled to accomodate the room acoustic settings...I use Helmholtz resonators and diffusers around my speakers.... And remember that it takes me months and months of listening experiments to tune it correctly... Mechanical active control is impossible in a living room.. In a living room onlt a balance esthetical treatment is possible alas! But when done right passive treatment and mechanical control make all upgrade of gear seems useless if you already own a basic good audio system to begin with for sure...

The fact that you spend BIG MONEY about your room and you were not completely satisfied reflected only that acoustic panels sellers sells first and last... not one could tune your room save yourself... It takes time to do it... not one sellers i know use mechanical active control, they mostly sells panels and bass traps... At high costs...Anyway like i repeat everywhere: the only luxury in audio is not the price tag of gear but a dedicated room...

Then your experience dit not result from reading my advice at all...Save for the fact that acoustic matter the most and you interpret it in the wrong way by spending big money in acoustic products which i never recommend to do ever...

Untreated room cannot sound better they sound better ONLY if they are optimally treated and controlled.... They dont sound better generally because people put an inadequate treatment, too much absorption, too much diffusion, too much reflections or not enough of those in the wrong balance...... Simple...No room is perfect geometrically, topologically, and with his various acoustic content, and with his specific speakers... All SMALL room need acoustic...

i am sorry if i put you without knowing it in an expansive course of buying acoustic treatment , it is not what i recommended  AT ALL because i never bought anything which will cost more than peanuts....

@mahgister , your last post seemed out of place for you? Little harsh and judgmental based on your posting history. Differing routes to enjoying music with no single or best way to go about it. Room treatments and tweaks are great as I am a big fan of them. However, in some rooms they don’t help as much. I as well as others I know spent big money on room treatments and such to only pull it all out later realizing the untreated room sounded better. Yes, it happens. I am talking about paying industry professional to measure and treat the room. Pulled it all out!

I dont throw my ignorance in few words to insult people...Like some a...

And when someone attack a friend with no reason i dont like it...

I made audio experiments for myself and contrary to those who throw their money BELIEVING in the flat earth audio theory that what they listen to is their costly gear, i never bought NOTHING save basic vintage gear (500 bucks), i created my audiophile experience with junk materials at no cost ,discarded materials from my basement and PURE ACOUSTIC science...My system is so good i can smile at idiots consumers and their ignorant consumerism hysteria especially when they laugh at those who are open mind to experiment at low cost like the one here...

Because what we hear at the end, dear "flat audio earther" is not the amplifier, the dac, or the speakers ALONE mainly, nevermind their price tag, but THE ROOM between our ears and the gear and way more other things like vibrations or resonance, interference, etc...And yes i experimented with success with quartz copper and and shungite for peanuts with S.Q. results..

Then when a horse owning blinders and throwing his money in consumerism call me a flat earther because i learned BY MYSELF ONLY and very lost cost products... I return to him the compliment...With interest...

Anyway it take a brain to learn acoustic by ourself like i did and experimenting with quartz before speaking...

Flat Earth Science.

I can be minimalist too...

Get a life

oldhvymec OP

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Wow!

Very interesting... Thanks to the old mechanic man.... 😊

I created a product for my electrical device in my gear and in my house...

I called it "the golden plate"...

I used Shungite plate with copper sheet and Herkimer quartz crystal diamond...

I even used it on my grid of Schumann generators...

it seems Gustard had read my post of some years ago... Shungite is not in their product yet though....But quartz and copper are....

But my device did not work as a connector...i used that to filter the field or the sound...Anyway i dont know why it work exactly but it worked i made near fifty golden plates and put them even on my electrical central panel...

Cost : peanuts...

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