channel separation


Have been doing some preliminary research about possibly moving from a nice integrated to separates.  Was hoping someone could set me straight on a measurement characteristic that has always bugged me:  channel separation.  Just read the Stereophile review of the Prima Luna EVO 400 preamp, which is described as dual mono from end-to-end. Yet, channel separation was measured at only 50 db (at 20 kHz) due to "capacitive coupling."

How can the channels bleed into one another when the entire layout is dual mono?  Why do solid state preamps seem to measure better in this area - is the output device of importance? Most importantly - does this matter? I always imagined that greater separation would mean greater preservation of image and soundstage.  Thanks very much!

batvac2

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P.S: One more thing I noticed in the photo of the underside of the preamp is that at the extreme right there appears to be a bundle of many wires running from the small circuit board near the input jacks at the rear, all the way to the input selector switch at the front. Those wires presumably carry the input signals for both channels, for all of the inputs, and all of those wires are neatly (and tightly!) bundled together. More opportunity for crosstalk, and one that IMO is likely to be a particularly significant contributor to the 50 db number.

Regards,
-- Al
How can the channels bleed into one another when the entire layout is dual mono?

The answer, IMO, is that the design is not truly dual mono. If you look at the photos of the preamp at the PL site, especially the photo of the underside, the following things can be seen:

1) The input jacks for both channels are located close to one another, on one side of the preamp.

2) Those jacks appear likely to be wired to a single small printed circuit board, serving both channels. That isn’t entirely clear in the photo, however.

3) There is a single volume control, serving both channels.

4) There is a single input selector switch, serving both channels.

5) The output jacks for the two channels are located close to one another.

6) As a consequence of the foregoing factors several wires can be seen running from one side of the preamp to the other. And in one case, near the control at the top left of the photo of the underside, it appears that wires associated with both channels are physically bundled together. That is good with respect to the neatness and appearance of the underside, but bad with respect to crosstalk.

7) A printed circuit board in the power supply section, the board located toward the rear of the amp that among other things has four large black capacitors on it, serves both channels. Its relatively small size means that circuit points on it that are related to both channels are in close proximity. Also, ground and power "planes" that are probably within that board probably serve both channels.

Undoubtedly there are more such examples. And all of these things create opportunities for crosstalk between the channels, especially at high frequencies.

In any event, though, I agree with the others that 50 db of channel separation at 20 kHz (and >77 db below 1 kHz, per Stereophile’s measurements) is not in itself a significant issue.

Regards,
-- Al