I had the Sonus Faber Cermona a few years ago and sold it when I went full on 2-channel. I've revived my home theater system since I got a new TV and I miss the Cermona. it was almost like they took the floor standing version and chopped it in half. It was pretty massive (64 lbs 30" x 8.9" x 17" (WxHxD)) - the detail it provided was nothing like what I'm getting from the in-ceiling speakers. So - I totally agree with you.
Centers - Go big or go home
Dear readers,
Some of you may know that I spent a few years working in the motion picture equipment / audio industry. As much experience as I had there, I still sometimes feel like a newbie dealing with the limitations of a home theater. For instance, in theaters we always had 3 or more identical speakers BEHIND the screen. These were full range speakers meant for high efficiency, high power and broad dispersion.
In the home we usually compromise with the center significantly, and try to make weird compromises for surrounds (remember di-poles?).
I am posting here to say my position on using a center channel speaker in the home has evolved a great deal after experimenting with a new much larger center than I had before.
https://speakermakersjourney.blogspot.com/2023/10/the-center-at-scale.html
Here is what I used to believe was true:
A center channel is modestly better than a phantom center
This was based on the size of TV's we have at home vs. a theater, and knowledge about how head related transfer functions affect how we perceive a phantom center vs. a real one, both in terms of listening area but also in terms of perceived frequency response.
First, I was wrong. I'll rephrase it now:
A small, 2-way center channel is modestly better than a phantom center. A large 3-way center channel is a glorious addition to a HT system and feels like adding a subwoofer, even when that 3-way is low-frequency limited.
I'm listening to a 3-way center with 2x 7" woofers and a 4" midrange and it's amazingly better than the 2-way with 5" woofers even at modest volumes. First, all 2-way center channels suffer from a high crossover frequency, around 2 kHz. This means the mid-woofers carry almost all of the signal, diffusing the location of the center. Having a midrange seems to focus the dialogue exactly in the center of the screen, no matter where you sit.
The part that is really new and noteworthy to me is that the sound feels as if I added a subwoofer exactly in the middle of the speakers, despite the fact that the speaker is not a full range speaker and high passed by the processor at 80 Hz. It's a huge difference, and it brings all the benefits we associate with an excellent subwoofer, including transparency and depth which seems to open up the midrange and treble.
So, that's my new advice. If you have a choice between phantom and small centers stick to phantom. If you can get a 3-way center then you absolutely should.