Your very welcome, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
You wont be sorry if you use it as a Transport, and as you know it also plays great Internet Music and it will work with your Duet Remote.
If your Dac has an AES/EBU input, then I would recommend you use it, and I would recommend upgrading the Transporters power cable, other than that you'll be good to go. Feel free to drop me an e-mail if you have any further questions.
Happy 4th of July,
Rich |
Hi Misstl,
I'm curious, did you ever compare the Transporter as a stand-alone front-end hooked up with the Lavry as the external DAC ($3000 combo), to the Squeeezbox front-end/ Lavry DAC Combo ($1400 combo).
Or did you just compare the Transporter with built-in DAC ($2000) to the Squeezebox/ Lavry combo ($1400) and decide that it wasn't worth an extra $600 to go with the built-in Transporter's DAC, because it was deemed not as good as the Lavry DAC for less money?
Because I'm prepared to suggest that if you're happy with your Squeezebox/Lavry setup, than you will be ecstatic with the Transporter/Lavry Combo (however $3000 is double the price of your current setup), but since you already own the great Lavry DAC, then you should consider picking up a used Transporter to use as your front-end for around $1400.
The following link and concurrent thread goes into some further detail if you're interested:
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?ddgtl&1246278090
The title of the thread is "How good of a Dac is the Logitech Transporter, but I'm suggesting that the title of the thread could very well be, " How good of a Transport is the Logitech Transporter."
I hope you enjoy it,
Rich |
Hi Mlsstl,
Fair enough, I was just curious to see if others had heard the differnecnces that I have described regarding the Transporter as a streamer only, as compared to the Squeezebox as a streamer only, but I now understand that you owned them at different times.
Happy Listening,
Rich |
Hi Mlsstl,
I'm not sure what you mean by Apple Lossless is not a native format to the Squeezebox. Logitech lists it as a supported format in their spec sheet, right along with FLAC, and WMA Lossless.
For what it's worth I'm getting phenomenal sound from the Transporter and terrible sound from the Squeezebox, while both were using Apple Lossless. So possibly it's a processing thing, a jitter thing or a clocking thingy.
Jglim,
In my humble opinion, you will never get the sound that you are looking for through the Squeezebox. I think you should Demo a Transporter. Have fun with it for 30 days and then ship it back if you don't agree with me.
Rich |
Thanks for the link.
WAV and FLAC list similar transcoding statements as ALAC does, so I don't think it's an issue. Technically all of these Codec's have to be transcoded. I have heard that larger lossless files that are streamed wirelessly can further tax the streaming buffer, but that's about it.
I'm hoping that he wont want to return it; unless he either wants to buy a used one, or I fell off my rocker.
Mlsstl, what file streaming settings are you referring to?
Rich |
Thanks for the explanation!
Rich
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Jglim Quote:"Has anyone here tried sticking an Apple Mac using the optical miniplug output straight into the DAC? Wondering if this more direct connection would outperform streaming."
Yes, I have the optical output on the MacPro plugged directly into the Benchmark DAC1 and then into a pair of Audioengine A5 Speakers and it does sound better than the Squeezebox plugged directly into the DAC1. Both tests were done using Apple Lossless Files.
The Optical Digital out from the MAC directly to the DAC1 had; better resolution, sense of space, improved tonality, greater inflections in the Vocals, better PRAT, and a more 3D soundstage.
The Squeezebox received its signal via a wired ethernet cable, then it was connected to the DAC1 using the same cheapo, Optical Monster Cable, feeding the DAC1. The volumes were matched by ear and not by using a meter, which I couldn't find. Anyway, the sound from the Squeezebox revealed; less resolution, less transparency, the soundstage sounded flatter, compressed and more homogenized, and the music was less involving which I will refer to as less PRAT.
iTunes doesn't support FLAC. You will need to find a new media player for the MAC, a plugin-in, or a FLAC file converter.
Rich |
Bingo! Dinners Ready!
That's exactly what I'm talking about.
Check out my first posting in this thread which is the 8th listing from the top.
Then check out this thread:
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?ddgtl&1246278090&openflup&14&4#14
Rich
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To answer your direct question Mr_Bill, I didn't feel like unhooking all of the wiring and carrying my MacPro Desktop downstairs to perform the test that you're referring to, because I felt that I wouldn't ever use this large tower Computer in the Living Room anyway. However, through my PC Audio setup, the answer to your question is above in this thread.
For what it's worth, I also compared the MBL 1621A transport to the Logitech Transporter and although the MBL 1621A was clearly better and 10 times the price, it certainly wasn't embarrassing for the Logitech, nor was it worth me getting up off the couch to change songs every few minutes. I would equate the sonic difference to, upgrading your stock power cables to high-end power cables. I should also mention that all Interconnects and Power Cables were Kubala-Sosna Emotions, and the Digital Cable was a K-S Emotion 110 ohm AES/EBU.
Rich |
To clarify my previous post above:
The Logitech Transporter, was used as a streamer only, and it was compared to the MBL 1621A transport, while they were separately feed into an external MBL 1611F DAC. The MBL Transport won the bout marginally, but the Logitech Transporter went the distance.
Rich |
Streaming media is data transferred in a stream of packets that are interpreted and rendered, in real time, by a software application as the packets arrive.
Streaming is not only limited to telecommunication networks anymore. An end-user may also stream media content over their Local Area Network (LAN), from a hard drive storage system to a media player such as a Logitech Squeezebox hooked up to an audio system.
Rich |
It's always better at 1:30AM in the Morning!
Rich
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