CD Quality Versus Streaming Quality


I realize this will be a contentious subject, and far be it from me to challenge any of the many expert opinions on this forum, but if I may offer my feedback vis-a-vis what I am hearing, and gain some knowledge in the process.

i will begin saying that my digital front end setup is not state of the art, but i have had the good fortune to listen to a number of really high-end systems. I guess the number one deficit in my digital front end is a streamer server, and no question about it that will improve the sound.

My CD player is a universal player; Pioneer BDP-09fd. It uses Wolfson DACs. It has been modified to a degree. I have bought and sold other players, but kept this one, because it has a beautiful sound that serves the music well.

Recently, i ventured over to my son’s place and we hooked up my player (he doesn’t have one and rely’s on streaming only) We compared tracks / albums of CD quality and master quality streamed on Tidal with ‘redbook’ CDs I have. For example, some Lee Ritenaur CDs and some Indian classical and the wonderful Mozart and Chopin.
His system is highly resolving.

we were both very surprised to find the CDs played on the player to be the better sound. And not just by a little. The sound was clearly superior, with higher resolution and definition, spatial ques, much better and clearer imaging. Very surprising indeed. Shouldn’t there be no difference? This would suggest the streaming service is throttling the bandwidth or compressing the signal?

i am most interested to hear others’ observations, and suggestions as to why this might be? I do love the convenience aspect of streaming, but it IS expensive for a chap like me of fairly modest means. The Tidal HiFi topline service is $30 per month I believe, something the good lady is not too thrilled about. God forbid I should suggest Roon on top of that I may likely get my walking papers. I jest, but only partially LoL. My point is, if I pay this sort of money, isn’t it fair to expect sound to equal the digital stream from the CD player and silver disc?
Thoughts?

AK





4afsanakhan

Showing 3 responses by lalitk

OP,

You have opened up a can of worms :-) I see same old folks, hopping from one thread to another cascading their stale biases.

https://www.riaa.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/2020-Year-End-Music-Industry-Revenue-Report.pdf

BTW, if you invest time and efforts in a good streaming setup, you will be rewarded with sound that equals or better than CD’s. And you can have high resolution streaming (Qobuz) for as low as $12.49 per month.
“Streaming will eventually be better.”

There is plenty of great sounding content currently available via streaming and downloads. But sadly folks like georgehifi who have invested $$$$ collecting physical media (CD’s or Vinyl) will never accept that! They will continue to cascade info that proves their hidden agenda by conveniently overlooking to post examples of streaming content available without any or minimal compression.
https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list?artist=Muddy+Waters&album=Folk+

https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list?artist=Dave+Brubeck+&album=Time+Out

https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list?artist=Leonard+Cohen&album=You+want+it+darker

https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list?artist=Diana+krall&album=Turn+up+the+quiet

https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list?artist=Herbie+Hancock&album=Crossings

https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list?artist=Norah+Jones&album=Come+away+with+me

https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list?artist=Kenny+Burrell&album=Midnight+blue

Wikipedia says..

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“I predict you’ll all be listening and likely loving streaming at some point.”

Sorry@sns. It won’t happen for close-minded folks like georgehifi. No matter what anyone else says, he will show up shortly with a post outlining another compressed recording link, conveniently overlooking the thousands of great sounding uncompressed albums currently available on streaming.

If you like classical, listen to this album (Qobuz). You’re in for a treat!
https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/189012