CD or Streaming... am I missing out?
llarry Correct me if I'm wrong but looking at what you said sounds like the same dac wasn’t used in this A/B so how can anything be establish? Cheers George |
Think I will spend some daily time listening to Pandora through the app on my smart TV. A good idea to discover new artists and music. Have that as a handy guide to buy new CDs or LPs.Good way to look at it, use the internet services as a sampler library, then look for the "least compressed" version CD/LP of it using the "dynamic range data website" http://dr.loudness-war.info/ (usually the earliest/first one) Get the label/cat no. buy used one for a couple of dollars on ebay, like I do. Cheers George |
I need both CD and Streaming....Yes good way for it’s use. That’s why so many I know have dropped out of our "audiophile" club meetings and listening sessions after turning to streaming, they use it like the "house radio", and don’t seem to "focus" and listen anymore like they used to. They're not audiophiles anymore (good or bad)? Cheers George |
And much to the horror, dismay or denial of some, that sound is probably a better replica of the master than either vinyl or CD can be - understandableThe word to question there is "probably" And it's not in all cases we've, done a/b with on the same hiend system. Here https://forum.audiogon.com/posts/2120951 Cheers George |
If you’re an audiophile and sound is the issue, you’ll probably like your physical media more!Sound is the issue for me, that why I’ll stick with CD, even though not as convenient. Just to go backwards to the vinyl days If convenience was the reason back then also I would have gone to 8 track/cassettes instead of staying with vinyl. I’ve said it before, a few I know, have sold their huge 30+ years collection library of CD’s, gone over to to streaming, they now have given up on being audiophiles. Don’t come to the audio society meetings or members home gatherings for drinks and shoot outs between equipment, just gone MIA. Cheers George |
Some Report a superior experience with CD (Re Book) playback ...Exactly what we did in the A/B in my 4th post page one. Through very high end stuff, but it was clear what the better was. And any later music from the last couple of years was just too compressed for either format. Just look what happens to the later release of the same thing. This 1989 one is the best, just look at the dynamic range Cheers George |
As many have said steaming done right (upper mid to high end) makes CD’s redundant.A few friends and acquaintances I know/knew that have sold all their massive CD collection for expensive streaming. We don’t see them much any more for audio equipment shoot out. Audio meetings and new product listening. Think about why this is? Also why do so many here talk about chopping and changing their streamers/the streaming companies, the best way to connect it to get it sounding right? Cheers George |
The streaming process is prone to loss that CD’s dont have, because it involves a more complicated delivery chain to get the bytes to the DAC - which involves traveling through your network EQ that introduces noise and bit-timing issues to the DAC. The jitter figures will be higher, has anyone seen any measured data on this?? Cheers George |
Maybe, but a group of 6 of us all picked it CD was better, even the pro streamer guy, who was upset because he sold all 2000 of his CD's to go to streaming. System 432evo High End mMusic Server 432evo Roon Core. TotalDac T1 Yamaha CD Transport Supratek Cortese Wilson Alexia II Gryphon Antillion. Yes very high end, but isn’t that what it’s all about?? No compromises if possible, otherwise you’d use the cheap supplied interconnects that come free with sources as well. Cheers George |
That about sums it up nicely. If you have a library of CD’s. Sound quality - CD Convenience - Streaming In Australia you can always listen to free DAB radio (streaming) for the latest stuff if you like it, we have hundreds of genre specific channels of it, it’s far better than listening to FM . Cheers George |
mglik Sound quality is arguable. Not to me it’s not, CD every time, how opportune this thread just started. Not looking at the different releases of this Tears for Fears, between 1989 to 2020 comparisons of dynamic range and how it get compressed (green is good uncompressed red is bad very compressed) https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/what-s-in-your-cdp-tonight-the-minority-report/post?postid=21... |
