Case of the dissapearing Bass

I had a bit more of a play and this is what ive found.

When sitting in the listening position there is no bass. when standing in the same spot there is the bass im looking for. Its still a bit soft. But i think thats my amps being too small rather than positioning.

Further the speakers come off the wall more empty the bass becomes but less adulterated by collection in corners.

Thanks for fk'all Marakanetz your opinion is as about as useful as a hole in the head.

Edit: I changed the phasing over to ensure they were not out of phase and they are not.

lol I would rather not say, its embarrasing. I have some a component in for repair.

PC- Asus Xonar STX DAC (analog out) - NAD C372- B&W 602S3
- 2x Rotel RB 1070 - B&W 802D

The NAD currently is the preamp for the rotels running in bridged mono.

Yes the rotels are too small.

Im looking to get new amps and a Schiit DAC in the near future.Im pretty keen on pass X600's

I did consider 2 Bryston 7BSST2's. The have the best warranty out there and have ample grunt. After having a visit from an expert he said my room is very bright, the speakers are very bright and the brystons are very bright and it could give me one of the most fatiguing systems out there.

I Havent written them off entirely. I Was thinking going something warmer like the Pass.

Its hard to decide as I cant audition anything where i live i have to fly 1200Km's before I can get to a capital city in australia.

Ill have to keep toying around with placement etc and see if it bears fruit.

The rotels drive the speakers reasonably well but it is very evident that they lose control of the bass at high volumes. You can see it in the driver excursion and definately hear it.

My budget is maybe like 10k for amps so im looking to go second hand. I would rather let someone else pay for the loss of value as soon as the amp comes out of the box.

I think Quad-mans theory of a bass suck might be on the money. I will have a go at these speaker placement programs. My room is an odd shape though so it might be a bit weird.

I have been playing around with the room a lot. I have made some changes which are very positive in the mid/ high area. but after more in depth investigation i have found that there is no bass when seated in the middle of the room.

If i sit on the floor i have bass, If i stand i have bass. Just no bass on a chair from the equilateral triangle listening point all the way to the back of the room. Its bloody odd.

The bass is everywhere and MASSIVE when in the centre beside/ behind the speakers. Its so massive i almost lose balance and soil my pants. As soon as I move forward its gone.

Im in australia. Wheres merrill? thanks for the advice Hifal.