My experience on the concert stage for 30 years has indicated each and every time that from the audience or from the stage itself, that the illusion of depth is only an artifact. I agree completely that it sounds nice, but I am just saying that in reality it just ain't there. It CAN be manufactured - and that is done all the time in the studio. You can listen to a pop singer like DIDO or Enya who sing in small recording studios, but whose sonic manipulations sound like they are singing in a huge venue. I understand that some cartridges can decode this space better than others...I'm simply saying that in reality, on a stage, there is very little of that. By the way - I have a Benz cartridge, and it may not be to everyone's liking, but there are times when the walls and speakers disappear completely, and Dido, and Enya are in their huge worlds.