Capacitor as Crossover for High Pass?


Hello,

Please excuse my ignorance here. I have read various opinions on the use of either passive or electronic (active) crossovers, or both, in the forum. Hoping I can get some advice on the following and if what I'm planning makes sense.

I have a pair of satellites and my thoughts are to add a pair of bass panels for the lower frequencies. I will be bi-amping (SET tube for sats and SS for bass panels). My thoughts are to use a passive crossover (high quality capacitor) for the high pass to the satellites and an electronic crossover for the low pass to the bass panels.

If someone could please tell me, if I do install a capacitor as the high pass, where is the capacitor installed? Between the amp and speaker, between the pre and amp? Also, how do I affix the capacitior to either the speaker cable or the amplifier? Is the capicitor housed within an enclosure of some type?

Thank you very much for any help you could give and if I'm off my rocker please let me know.

Best Regards,

Lee V.
hvowell

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Al,

Thank you Al. It makes sense. Not sure why I've read comments that running the satellites through an electronic crossover has a detrimental effect, while it is OK on the woofers/subs? I guess it would be not having to use an additional cable and the cross-over? For the electronic crossover I was considering the Behringer to get things set and then replace with a Marchand? (or is the Behinger good)?

Also hope I was using the right terminology. I was looking for the satellites to take care of somewhere between 125-150HZ and up. If I was to use a capacitor to roll off the frequencies below say 125HZ not sure what frequency I would be shooting for with the capacitor. Would the capacitor have a 6db slope?

Just a bit more info if I may.

The sats are tested at 91db, 5-10 ohms between 100HZ and 25KHZ and the bass panels would be, still looking for them, approx 87db 4 ohms. The amps for the sats are 24 watt PP SETs, while the amps for the panels would be SS about 400-500 watts. The sats go down to 55HZ. Not sure what it is down by at that frequency. -6db? Also, the room is not large 15x19, but pretty much dedicated to 2 channel listening.

I understand that the electronic crossover would let me set the crossover freq, volume and phase. My thought was to crossover at 125-150HZ, with a high slope 36db? (Not sure until you try I guess) The satellites would be in front of the bass panels, so I would need to be able to adjust the phase.

Thanks again,

Lee
All of your points sound reasonable.

What do you think of running the monitors "full range" and then just using the electronic crossover for the lower frequencies? I could always experiment with a capacitor as I go along here. I'll also take your advice on the bass amp.

Also want to say that being new to this audio, (I wouldn't call it a hobby as it's become a passion) experience, how really supportive everyone one is and how willing they are to share their knowledge. It is a great help.

Thanks again.

Lee V.
Got it. I'll plan on rolling the lower frequencies off the monitors. If its OK, once I find the panels and start working through the process I'll send an update.

Lee
Next crossover Slopes?

Could I get some thoughts on slopes to use on both active (for the low pass) and passive (for the high pass)?

Is there a reason you wouldn't want to use 8th order slopes? Complexity, noise? It would seem that one would want to use the greatest slope and place the two crossover frequencies within exactly an octave of each other (say 125hz for the low, 250hz for the high)? Would not the drivers then be either positive or negative the same "amount" throught the slopes.

If so, would the object be to have both drivers, in this case the mid and the woofers, carry some of the frequency range with one driver negative and the other driver positive through the slope as they approach a crossover point exactly between the two crossover frequencies? In essence the frequency ranges between these two points are flat without any (+/-) overlap?

Or would it be more of a blend of slopes with one of the driver types "carrying more" of say the bass frequencies towards a point between the two crossovers?

I understand I am being very simplistic here. I imagine differences between speaker types, volumes, phasing and type/wattage of amps come into play.

Lee