Can I start some trouble?


Is it possible that on expensive cables, power cords, power conditioners etc. that the manufactures do something to make the sound different, not necessarily better, but just something to color the sound so we all feel justified in spending a small fortune?
darrylhifi
Not sure what that means, nor how many "points" are on your scale, but if I understand correctly, I'd just round up to 3. (2.866)

Not to detract from this particular thread, but now I'm interested in understanding the point system that you've developed, Marakanetz. Would you mind telling us a bit more about it?

Thanks,

Dan
Dan, I've got just an idea about "sampling" of relative improvements that could be possible to make to upgrade meaning statistics. As it figures out it has a quite large finite number of variables to consider for the proper and precise definition. The numbers given are just a dummy-like demo example that needs to be worked out with different measuring devices(not only ears) to prove and to define a sampling scale. The common denominator can be found only if you capture ALL variables and than adjust a proper relative value after everything is done. In today's technology I will probably have to capture every variable into the database and do the computer processing according to the market prices that can be grouped onto the different classes of performance.

Another scientific experiment that I've done so far was to test the phase and freequency responces of low-priced and sky-rocketing priced audio cables as well as ability to accept induced currents from the near-by output transformers and AC outlets to make for myself a number of conclusions about today's high end market and one of them is very similar as Sugar pointed out. Lots of rich folks would say that there is no point using AudioQuest Midnight speaker cable with JM Lab Utopia speakers -- it has to be at least Nirvana or Nordost Valhalla.

To my thorough research of wiring in general(I won't argue it certainly does make a difference) I've found out that most of VanDenHul cables are genuie, honestly built, not overpriced and suitable for almost any budget audiofile system. They're not cheap(to me still) that's why I was ordering only kits and terminated them all myself, but the job they do with them is increadible and you know always what you're paing for.
I think that system balance is a key factor that affects
all choices made in a system. A person has to determine
with various recordings of his or her collection, a standard
for tonal balance. By listening to recordings of various
qualities to hopefully achieve a musical balance that
enables the listener to enjoy more of their collection.
For me thats a priority. Once you know that you have
established these parameters, I think its easier to
enjoy cables and the like.

Regardless of price or your orientation of it, there
are some very interesting aspects to cable design,
regardless of type. There are for instance with Interconnects different camps, from Mapleshade/Omega
Micro, and Silversmith for instance that use ultrathin
conductors. Which are solid core but not like
Tara and Purist which have more mass. Which are
different from multi-stranded litz designs like
Cardas. And then there are combinations and even
more designs to discuss. The point being that
each of these designs sound different and can be
enjoyed, and the beauty of it is that none are
perfect, so its leaves us to ponder yet other
possibilities.

Granted, there are in life many different people
out there making products and also media to amplify
it with it's own slant, so buyer must beware. However,
you have to be lucky enough to know when you have made
a mistake, and also to have the vision to know
whats a musical step forward. For me the ones that
simply make music easier to enjoy are the ones I
gravitate towards. More transparent, better soundstage,
more open, will mean little to me if they are robbing
the musicality from my system. What good is it if it
only works for the better recordings? Of course you
must determine for yourself where it needs to be for you.

In regards to power products, remember there was a day
when all cable upgrades were considered with contempt.

My final thought is to say that I've been enjoying the
new Wayne Horvitz CD, if you enjoy a somewhat new jazz/ensemble sound that once in a while gets a little
close to the Frisell sound, but not too and not often,
try this new sound from Mr. Horvitz and I wish you all
well.

Steve