Of course. Your Frog may have different cantilever position and it is all individual per cartridge settings. But this is interesting.
Calling all VDH Colibri Fanatics and Experts ...
In your own experience of this wonderful cart, what setup parameters has optimized the Colibri in your own system in terms of VTA, VTF, cartridge loading and others. Your valuable suggestions and experiences are all welcome and appreciated! Thanks in advance.
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ninetynine, with regards to SRA settings you mentioned earlier that you started from the level settings and ended up at 93 degrees. Was the final setting achieved by hit/miss listening or some other way? Also with your current SRA of 93 degrees where are you with regards to the level position? I am 5mm above the level with mine currently. It sounds really good but a little bit edgy and I wonder if the current level isn't too high. |
I was trying to set it by ear listening to some mono records and looking through magnifying at how the cantilever reacts (left, right, nothing) when the stylus touches spinning vinyl. Also watching how the tonearm behaves in the wider inner groove (is it slow/fast). But this is approximation I think. |
I know this AJ recommendation. He also says that the optimal antiskate is at 1/3 of VTF. But in my case AO PU7 does not have the scale but the weight that you can slide up or down the metal stick with no scale. So my settings could be wrong yet I do not know where I am with these settings in terms of measured value. I think I would have to use some math formula to measure it. I measured all the elements of this mechanism and this is as follows: Metal Stick length: 17mm Wheel diameter: 20mm Weight mass: 0.73g Metal stick weight: 0.30g I think having the right formula I could measure specific antiskate force but I can't find that formula. Maybe that is physics formula. |
Thank you, here is mine. The first song is the Tracy Chapman song http://orangeaudio.de/temp/Frog_SMEV_XP25.wav |
OK. Here it is. For My Lover sample from Tracy Chapman s/t German pressing in the form of WAV 96/24. https://www.dropbox.com/s/0dnir6m00ei2gmf/Sample%20TC%20ForMyLover.wav?dl=0 |
Here is the sample from Suzanne Vega st German pressing. Very good example of the my major Issue with my Colibri - sibilance in the right channel. I think I dialed all antiskating possibilities yet it is still there. Does your copy have that sibilance? https://www.dropbox.com/s/o8oxaajycvj81ho/Sample%202.aif?dl=0 |
OK. I went through your collection and I have some of these pressings. I will try to rip something of this and post the sample so we can compare. Interesting that you have Gwrman pressing of Van Halen 1984 which I just ordered as I am not too happy with Rhino 2010 and 30th Anniversary from 2015. Rhino is very bright and sibilant while 30th Ann. Is about right but Hot For Teacher is quite sibilant. I hope original German press is free of this. |
So here is fresh rip with XGW. Do you think I could get better settings with my XGW than this? I am not sure if that is the sweet spot. https://www.dropbox.com/s/4kwanj9iknnaql9/Sample.aif?dl=0 |
Yes, your rip has hot s-tones and sound a bit bright. A lot of today masters sounds to bright with pushed treble. I don´t know if this is the reason or the cartridge. If you want a cartridge which is unsensitive with sibilance, go for EMT This is a rip from me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TndhsOrI6Nc But the Frog sound so much more natural and with more resolution. I have sold the EMT |
Really nice rip. Here is some of my rips done with my XGP LW. Played on LP12 (Cirkus/Radikal/Kore) w/AO PU7 tonearm. What did you play it on yours? https://www.dropbox.com/s/3fmuu0lu0uygdu2/09%20Brain%20Damage%20A3%3AB3.wav?dl=0 |
I never tested another SRA. Not each vinyl is cutted with the same angular. Temperature and VTF affect it too. Only one vinyl from 500 hisses a little bit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-zhkLm3pQM at minute 1:02 |
Yes the front looks similar to my XGW: https://www.dropbox.com/s/rrrxy9nzzelzz6e/Photo%20Dec%2030%2C%2010%2059%2033.jpg?dl=0 |
I think it is the same. Tonearm was parallel adjusted and SRA at 93° Here some more pictures http://orangeaudio.de/temp/frog1.jpg http://orangeaudio.de/temp/frog2.jpg |
I measured SRA from my Frog with USB-Microscope http://orangeaudio.de/temp/Frog%20SRA.jpg It sounds so good, that i think a inspection in Netherlands is not needful. Never touch a running system.... Channels seperation is 35 and 36dB - LR identity ist 0,2dB - Phase is 82 and 85° http://orangeaudio.de/temp/frog_azimut.jpg |