Buzz about pure class A solid state amplifiers ?


Fellow Audiogoners:

I would greatly appreciate all your input/insight.

Lately both in and out of Audiogon, I have been aware of a "buzz" and numerous praises about the benefits of pure class A solid state amplifiers, as an alternative to the more common high bias AB designs, and an alternative to the transparency and coherence of tube designs.

I have recently auditioned a current production 60 watt Accuphase class A solid state design, a fine amplifier indeed. However, up against my similarly priced VAC Phi 300 class AB stereo tube amplifier (used in ultralinear), it sounded mildly anemic, less transparent, and less coherent/detailed. This is with due respect to Accuphase products, which I have owned and enjoyed greatly.

So....please help me to understand all the purported benefits of the lack of crossover notch distortion, etc with class A push pull soid state designs, when excellent AB tube amps, with crossover notches, are IMHO more cohesive, transparent and resolving in comparison. Have designers, both tube and solid state, basically succeeded in rejoining positive and negative waveforms seemlessly, without perceptable crossover notch distortion?

Yes I did, admittedly, have an interest in simplifying my system, and going back to solid state after 14 years (with tube preamp); However my tubes are gonna stay :)

To all my solid state friends, please know that I have owned many solid state amps which I have truly enjoyed and have the utmost respect, dating back to the Reference Levinson 32's...and I know there are great SS amps out there, and primarily class AB designs.

Just wanted to share my experience, and learn alittle more about class A solid state, specifically.

With thanks in advance for your thoughts

Brian
audiobrian

Showing 2 responses by jmcgrogan2

Well some will call their amps Class A, but obviously it's just a marketing tool for some. As you say, "buzz" word.
All 'Class A amps are not equal, just as all Class A/B amps are not equal, and all tube amps are not equal.

FWIW, I have not heard the Karan KA-S 450, but just looking at photos I find it VERY hard to believe that it could be pure Class A. 450 wpc in pure Class A would require monoblocks with much larger heatsinks.

As a comparison, Pass Labs XA series, which runs in pure Class A, goes to monoblocks with their 60 wpc XA-60.5
Their top of the line XA-200.5 puts out 200 wpc, and each monoblock is larger than the stereo Karan 450. So I would be inclined to believe that the Karan slides into Class A/B at around 50 wpc. This is no ding on Karan, as I have not heard this amp. I'm simply saying that physics makes it impossible for me to believe that this amp delivers 450 wpc of Class A power.

It's just physics, Class A generates a LOT of heat. If it truely is Class A, the power rating will be about 20-25% of a similar size amp which slides into A/B. Many amps will give you 5-10 wpc of Class A before sliding into Class A/B, and some may be bold enough to claim that they are Class A amps, as it is a selling feature, and marketing folks know what buzz words attract customers.

I also agree with Ngjockey, that the best way to compare A to A/B is in the same amp. AFAIK, Plinius and Clayton are the only two manufacturers who offer an A>A/B switch that you can flick on the fly. I've owned both, and experimented. I would say the Class A sounded better, more relaxed and articulate especially at low to moderate listening levels. At higher listening levels the differences decreased, IMHO.

Cheers,
John
Thanks Teddy_bear, I had not heard of Vitus before. However, after looking into it that looks like one SERIOUS amp!!! 176 pounds puts out 50 wpc in Class A!!! $28K price!! Gulp....that makes the Pass Labs stuff look underbuilt.

My back and my wallet scream at the thought! :)

Cheers,
John