"04-12-15: Maplegrovemusic
zd , what attributes do you look for in a bookshelf ? Hyped treble or overblown bass ?"
I don't listen to bookshelves. |
"Or, should I try Floor standing speakers. Thank you in advance on yours opinions.
Topten (Threads | Answers | This Thread)"
I think a floor standing speaker would be a much better way to go. See if you can audition a pair of Vansersteen Model 1's. They're very easy to drive and the bass is in a different league than what you have now. If for some reason, you don't like them, listen to some Monitor Audio floor standers. The silver series is very nice. That said, the Model 1's are hard to beat. You should like them. |
"04-11-15: Roxy54
Users and reviewers speak well of "The Clue."
That's because they don't have one. |
"04-12-15: Roxy54
Topten,
He knows very well what I was talking about. He just thinks that he is being funny as usual. I would be very surprised if he had ever even heard them. Bad puns and vitriol, he's an authority on both of those things though."
Correct. But here's the real joke.
"04-11-15: Roxy54
Users and reviewers speak well of "The Clue.""
You call that a recommendation? You can remove The Clue and put anything you want between those quotes. Its not all that difficult to find someone that will say anything about anything. So you can criticize me all you want, but at least I gave the OP a recommendation. You did not. |
"04-12-15: Maplegrovemusic
Go listen to some active monitors . Any brand will do . Might be an ear opener . It is for some anyways . LOL "
What do you think of a pair of Tannoy Reveal 502's? |
I guess you're one of those spec sheet people. You should try listening sometime. |
"04-12-15: Chrshanl37
curious to know what actives you have auditoned zd
Chrshanl37 (Threads | Answers | This Thread)"
There's not that many high end powered speakers. Regardless, all of the ones I have listened to are overpriced for the SQ that they deliver. I have yet to hear actives that can compete realisticly with well matched separates costing the same or less. To be fair, I most likely have different taste's than most. For example, I like Ayre for solid state. There's no active speaker that has an amp like that inside of it. But what I find amazing about all of this, is how everyone is so careful to get just the right amp, preamp and speaker combo, but for an active, whatever comes in the box is good enough. Everyone just goes brain dead. All common sense goes out the window.
Anyway, to answer your question, I've either owned or demoed the following. All of the Meridians. Audio Engine, All the ones that they sell in the music stores (JBL, KRK, Tannoy, Adam, Alesis etc.), PMC, ATC, Genelec, AktiMate. There's probably more, but that's all I can remember for now.
I should also mention that I'm referring only to fully powered speakers. Some speakers just have powered bass sections (Vandersteen, Genesis, etc). They can sound fine.
To sum up, regardless of the type of speaker you buy, active, passive, or partial, the selection process doesn't change. Buying an active speaker guarantees you absolutely nothing with regards to sound quality. And why should it? |
"zd , How do you know all of this to be true ? Are you an audiophile savant?"
I might be. What part are you referring to? For the most part, my last post is a mix of personal opinion and common sense. |
If you guys are going to challenge me on an issue read my post first. Don't put words in my mouth.
"For the most part, my last post is a mix of personal opinion and common sense."
" I have yet to hear actives that can compete realisticly with well matched separates costing the same or less. To be fair, I most likely have different taste's than most. For example, I like Ayre for solid state."
"To sum up, regardless of the type of speaker you buy, active, passive, or partial, the selection process doesn't change. Buying an active speaker guarantees you absolutely nothing with regards to sound quality. And why should it?"
How exactly am I talking in absolutes here? Anyone who comes to that conclusion is an absolute retard.
04-12-15: Maplegrovemusic
zd is the king of quotes . Quoting peoples opinions and stating reasons why he thinks they are wrong . Getting very old quickly .
Some people would call that a conversation. And if you're not willing to debate an issue, then you're the one who speaks in absolutes.
"Just going to start giving him a taste of his own medicine.
Maplegrovemusic (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)"
You're not smart enough to do that.
"Aplogies for the rant I just think there is a lot of opinion expressed on here passed off as fact and it does this site and the members a disservice."
Except when it comes to you. Your guesses get to be facts.
"You like vandies as do many others for the various reasons you have stated on other threads. I dont care for them and the amount of other people who dont like or own them far out weigh those that do."
I have no idea what book you got those facts from. But if so many people have a negative opinion of Vandersteen, then how is it that the Model 2 is the best selling high end speaker in the history of high end audio? There isn't another speaker that even comes close in terms of units sold?
Maybe you guys should stop being a bunch of cry babies and put more effort into learning about audio. From reading your posts, its clear that most of you are lacking in this regard. |
""the bass is in a different league than what you have now " zd ,Speaking in absolutes
"that said the model 1's are hard to beat . You should like them". How do you have any idea if he will like them ? He should like them ? One of the dumbest statements i have read recently . I could dissect zd's posts for hours and bring to light the terrible suggestions ,but only so much time in the day .
Maplegrovemusic (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)"
I can tell you for sure that I was spot on about the retard comment I made. First, everyone is complaining that I talk in absolutes. I then ask for you guys to read my post, and to your credit, you actually do. But this is where the retard part comes in. Looking at this;
"You should like them". How do you have any idea if he will like them ?"
Well, by me saying the OP should like them, proves that I'm not talking in absolutes. Should is not definite. And to even ask how would I have any idea that the OP would like them? Vandersteen's are usually respected for their bass. If you are looking for a speaker that has good bass, Vandersteen is a name that typically comes up. I even go so far to say that if the OP doesn't like the Vandersteen's for some reason, I gave an alternate recommendation of Monitor Audio. The thing that makes this whole conversation so ridiculous is that I clearly lay all this out right from the beginning, with no attitude or ambiguity whatsoever.
Just to clarify, I stand by my recommendation of the Vandersteen model 1's, and Monitor Audio. If anyone doesn't like my recommendations, that's OK. We all like different things. For the people that are attacking me for making these recommendations, you can kiss my ass. |
"04-13-15: Roxy54
Zd542
I think that a lot of people (myself included) are tired of your habit of using a discourse on any subject as an excuse for being abusive. You alternate between bad puns and nasty jabs.
Maplegrove is right. It's just getting old. "
If you can give me an example of me doing this, I'll be more than happy to apologize. |
"04-12-15: Zd542
"04-11-15: Roxy54
Users and reviewers speak well of "The Clue."
That's because they don't have one."
I believe that this post really upset a few people. It was just a humorous comment aimed at reviewers. I've seen most of the other posters on this web site make similar comments. Of course, I'm the one who gets attacked for it. Read the last sentence of my last post. |
Maplegrovemusic
At this point, I don't know what else to say other than you're a complete waste of food. |
"04-14-15: Fritzspeaks
Hey! Knock it off already you knuckleheads... You know who you are."
Sorry, I wouldn't want you to loose a sale.
"Any opinions on Fritzspeakers Carbon 7 SE Speakers.
Good reviews, but I don't know how they would sound with
the NAD." |
"How about the Proac D2, or should I stay away from the
Proac since they require more powerful Amplifier.
Topten (Threads | Answers | This Thread)"
I don't know if I'm too late but I just noticed that statement in your post. ProAc speakers sometimes look difficult to drive on paper, but in reality are not difficult at all. The impedance tends to stay consistent, and not drop too low. The NAD amp you have won't have any problem driving them. |
