Bookshelf Speakers with the decent bass

curious to know what actives you have auditoned zd

"I think a floor standing speaker would be a much better way to go.
See if you can audition a pair of Tekton Enzo xl's. They're very easy to
drive and the bass is in a different league than what you have now. If for
some reason, you don't like them, listen to some Golden Ear floor standers.
The Triton 7 is very nice. That said, the Enzo's are hard to beat. You should
like them"

Wow Zd was right.

As we all know there are no absolutes here and to me that is
the only thing that is common sense. To say that an active
speaker can't compete with a passive with a separate amp in
the same price range is nonsense and border line dillusional.
The same flawed logic could be applied to buying an integrated
amp vs seperates.

If a designer of an active has spent the time to mate an amp
that sounds good with them then he is taking the guess work
out of the equation. Who cares if its not an ayre its more
about synergy. The forums on every audio site are full of
threads dealing with the subject of matching speakers with the
correct amp. Obviously this is a point of frustration for many
people in this hobby. In fact judging by the sheer amount of
gear bought and sold on here it appears as if more people than
not struggle to achieve it across the board.

If the op auditions a pair of actives and likes them who are
we to say he or she isnt getting good sound? The
recommendation was just another option for the op to explore.

You like vandies as do many others for the various reasons you
have stated on other threads. I dont care for them and the
amount of other people who dont like or own them far out weigh
those that do. That doesn't mean you didnt make a solid
recommendation and I think the op should definitely check em
out.

Aplogies for the rant I just think there is a lot of opinion
expressed on here passed off as fact and it does this site and
the members a disservice. Apologies for the misspellings as
well I'm typing this on my phone.

Audioconnection you were careful to choose the word "most" instead of "all" which would make your statement about mini box speakers untrue. Thank you for making my point about speaking in absolutes.

Also where in the thread were mini box speakers recommended? I recall active monitors being suggested but I must have missed the mini suggestion.

Zd the only one putting words in you mouth is audioiconnection. Again when you skewered roxy for his suggestion of the clue and said they are clueless you are speaking in absolutes. You go on to say that it is not that hard to get anyone to say anything about anything. How do you know thats what they are doing? What proof do you have of this? Why is your opinion passed of as fact on this? Further moore who the f#$# are you to say they are clueless if they like them? Roxy did not tell him to go out and buy the speaker he said people like them and maplegrove did not tell the op to go out and buy the actives he told the op to listen to some.

Then you go on to say there is no guarantee they will like actives....well no shit sherlock thats why its called a suggestion. There is no gaurantee the op will like anything thats been suggested including vandersteens thats why nobody here said run out and purchase this or that. Also I'm puzzled as to why you use sales of vandies as a baseline for customer satisfaction. Are you saying everyone who bought vandersteens kept them? Again how do you know this where do you get these facts? Bose has huge sales numbers as well so are we now to assume based on your logic they are in the same league? Adcom was the highest selling amp of all time too does that mean everyone the bought one still owns an adcom? Hell no.

And speaking of specs and measurements Johnny your telling us zd was using ja measurements of the clue to base hIs assertion that anyone who suggests them are clueless? So now we are back to zd's pet peeve which is blindly assuming how something will sound based on numbers vs actually listening? We should all buy are speakers and make recommendations now based on Johns measurements?

Again this sounds to me like speaking in absolutes. Idk maybe I'm wrong.

I agree johnny when and only when they are set up to properly vandersteens sound great but off axis not so much. Kinda like the clues they need to be set up properly or they won't measure well either.