Bob Dylan finally makes sense....


In a recent interview Bob Dylan called music recordings "Atrocious" and went on to add that no good music has been made in the last 20 years, he went on to add that downloads should be free because the music is not worth anything anyway.
I have never really liked Dylan except for a few songs, but it is nice to see someone take a stand on how badly most music is recorded.
chadnliz

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I think some of you are wasting time talking about something that is a by product of your hobby it's called music.

As Hdm states above you couldn't even interpret his comments correctly.
I also think he's probably referring to his field and general popular music not the art of seeking out "recordings" that so many Audiophiles are obsessed with.

It doesn't surprise me so many Audiophiles don't get/like Dylan because it's well beyond that search for perfection that so many seek through equipment and the unhealthy obsession on recording quality.
Dylan has operated in parameters and levels that simply don't interest equipment hobbyists in the main.

It's been proved time and time again with a few notable exceptions that Audiogon really is better suited to talking Audio because when it comes to music it is reactionary and for the most part clueless.
Imho of course.
Capt369's post shows the depth of thinking about music for a whole lot of people and I think that's fine but it's neither interesting or thought provoking in itself.
Audiogon is filled with this level of comment time and time again on music.

Dylan's comments aren't particularly clear nor is the context but I do think it is more to do with the CD format and the clear trend towards the disposable aspect of modern music.
There is a certain validity in some of those comments and sure perhaps an element of somebody who has just got old and bitter.
Indeed maybe he does sound a bit like an Audiophile.
:-)

One things for sure not every word uttered by Dylan should be seen as a statement from on high.
Dylan would be the first to admit that.
Once you start to realise that he never believed any of the hype and labels bestowed upon him you might start to open up to the music.

Capt369 I like most of the Jazz artists you mention also.

However your comments on Dylan are based on some cliched terms referring to his fame or legend.
Your dismissal of what he did with music is crude and largely wrong.
If you have even a basic interest in songwriting you have to realise he turned that world on it's head, changed what a song could achieve (in an artistic sense)and operated lyrically on levels that your silly dismissal doesn't even begin to consider.

I'm no Dylan apologist he has made some terrible records and self destructed on numerous occassions but really how interesting is any debate on any musician based on throwaway criticisms with no depth-he's overrated, he can't sing, he isn't a good musician blah blah blah?

I've never read a single criticism of Dylan on Audiogon that went beyond that a child might make.
There are several above as well as yours.

He is actually very similar to Miles Davis in attitude and approach to music if in a totally different sphere.
The ability to take a musical form, analyse it,play it classically straight at times, take it apart to see how it worked and reform it in a new fashion , stretch the rules of that form, break the rules of that form, introduce aspects that baffle and enrage their audience, be a complete artistic maverick full of integrity only to look a human hypocrite a few steps further on.

Above all else they took their genres to the very peak of artistic achievement.

It's all in there................if you listen.
Sorry mate you've obviously never seen Stonehenge as part of it fell over centuries ago.

Bob Dylan is only a man.

Anyway serves you right for watching the tennis you could have been re-positioning your speakers............
Bob's been saying one thing and doing another his whole career please try to keep up.
:-)

Remember money doesn't talk it swears..........
The iPod and quality of recordings are completely seperate issues.
Many people have multi-thousand dollar systems are very interested in the quality of recordings but will use an iPod.
As for Dylan marketing iPods do you think the vast majority of younger folk even know who he is?
A high end system and iPod can live in tandem-they do for many folks. I love my iPod.
Dylan never made any comment about sound quality of MP3's etc.-he did make a very vague comment about how CD's sound in comparison to what he heard in the studio but as I've stated before it is so vague as to be almost irrelevant.
I rather suspect as a teenager listening to distant radio stations Bob wasn't questioning the mids, highs and bass quality.
Still a vague comment has got Audiophiles foaming about the mouth and his appearance in an Ad has them screaming "Judas".

Forty years on and things ain't changed much-people still screaming about their sets of values, their ideals and their perceptions at a man who simply couldn't function if he had to consider that type of crap.

If your upset because Dylan has promoted iPods then fine-it's not the end of the world, his music remains as it is.