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Black Ice F159 or Gold Note PH-10 ?

Looking to upgrade my Phono Pre. Currently I’m using a Pro-Ject Tube Box S with upgraded tubes (GE 5751 Black Plates) with my EAT B Sharp Turntable, AT VM740 Cartridge and Cardis Clear Interconnects. I just don’t like the sound anymore and feel, lets say “I Know” … My phono pre is the weakest link in my system!

I have the ability to pick up a Gold Note PH-10 w/ the external power supply for a decent price but in the past considered the Black Ice F-159. My dilemma is I really want tubes, I enjoy tube warmth and found out the F-159 even though it has Tubes, it’s loaded with Op Amps…Ugh!  The PH-10 not being tube either but gets a lot of great reviews even though still being SS.

I have a limited budget and am not adverse to purchasing used. I know there’s a lot of good used equipment out there, but hate when people suggest you should get a used “X”, and sure that sounds great, but just try to locate “X”, usually none to be found or way above my budget.  I hope this post does not get hijacked with long user histories referring me to buy something that’s either not to be found or out of my price range, So at this point if anyone has experience with either the Black Ice F-159 or the Gold Note PH-10 please advise.  Thx 

 

skiznfliz
dsv1
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I have an origin live aurora and zephyr tonearm with Hana SL plugged into a F129. And the F129 is fantastic. As you’ve stated it’s a hybrid, however I’ve rolled several tubes through it. And responds similarly to a pure tube platform.
 

Currently using nos bugle boys. The detail that comes through this set up is astounding. The additional cross talk function means no need for a separate fozgometer. 

I’ve had the F129 for nearly 3 years. Purchased when they were first released. 
 

I’ve no experience with the gold note. But a reputable company all around. 
 

I evaluated the EAT tube preamp which was excellent and similar in price along with the sunderland 20/20 and parasound JC 3. When deciding on the F129. At ythe time all these units were similar in price range. In the end I wanted tubes to roll as well. And had other 6922 gear in my stack. 
 

hope this helps. 

soix
9,755 posts
 

What’s your price range?

rivinyl
120 posts
 

Have you looked at Lejenklou?  Gets great reviews.  

nlitworld
72 posts
 

Not sure what your exact budget is, but a fantastic option right in that same ballpark is a Tubes4HiFi PH16. As a kit they are $800 but fully assembled is only $1,150.

PH16

 

Something a little more cost effective, yet still a step up from your ProJect is their PH14 which is an EAR834P clone. Hell of an option for $500.

PH14

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