There are probably a lot of other threads on the topic, but
Biwiring make any sense?
I am on the verge of adding new floor standers to my setup as my room has enlarged. Options being considered are KEF R7 Metas and PSAudio Aspen FR10's. Both have biwireable terminals, the KEF has a jumper switch and the PS has jumper wires to bridge the terminals. The other option from dealing with the jumpers is to biwire the speakers. In this case I could run a banana and a spade off each output terminal. Is this even worth considering? Biamping is not something I'm interested in, as I already am running off an integrated amp. I had a pair of BassZillas before, each one of which had 3 sets of terminals, the top 2 being biwired, but that's a different deal (I don't have those cables anymore). Speaker comments would be welcome too. Amp is PSAudio Spectral Strata w/150 watts into 4 ohms.
Showing 8 responses by immatthewj
@howardlee , it almost doesn’t matter what the subject is, the answers will range from "snake oil--it doesn’t have any effect on sonic performance" to "I hear a difference." Personally, I think it probably depends upon the speakers. If KEF or PSAudio provides any kind of tech support at all, it might be worth contacting them to find out what they think about b-wiring their speakers. At the time I bi-wired I was running a pair of B&W 805s (the Matrix series) and I think B&W was saying that those speakers would benefit from bi-wiring. I felt that I heard an incremental improvement. At the time (going on 30 years ago) I was continuously trying to make upgrades and subtle improvements as I was into "the sum of all parts" theory, and I looked at bi-wiring as just another one of the parts.
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@kclone , I make no claim to have a real tight grasp on electrical theory, but it seems to me that what you have described would be sub-optimal. The signal would be starting out on what seems to me to be one gauge of wire but then arriving at the speaker on a narrower gauge of wire. What you could do in that scenario, I think, is if the termination at the speaker end was spades, you could double them up so you had two on each speaker post. |
@84xfirez-51 , in what way were you not properly configured? There are not that many ways to do it, are there? One speaker cable goes to + and - of one set of speaker posts, and the second speaker cable goes to the + and - of the second set of speaker posts? |
Hmmm . . . @84xfirez-51 , if I am interpreting this correctly, the way you HAD it was you used one speaker cable to go to one set of speaker posts (to the woofer, for example) connecting one spade or banana to the + post (to the woofer) and then connecting the other spade or banana to the - post for the woofer. And then you took the other speaker cable and did the same thing for the tweeter + and - post. I always thought that this was the way bi-wiring was supposed to be done? So what you changed, and are doing NOW, if I understand you correctly, is that you are using one speaker cable, with both terminals of that cable connected to the + post of your amp, and you are connecting this cable to both the + to the woofer AND the + of the tweeter? And then you are hooking two from the - of the amp to both - posts of the speaker (- woofer and - tweeter) ? Well, I make no claims to be one of A’gons gurus, but I always thought the first way was the way it was usually done, but I guess that assuming you had the identical type of speaker wire pairs that you would essentially be doing the same way either way you did it . . . hmmm . . . that’s interesting.
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@84xfirez-51 , I am not saying that is not correct, because I don’t know; and I am not saying it wouldn’t work, because if the runs of cable are identical pairs I see no reason it wouldn’t work; I am just saying that I was always under the impression that speaker cables were routed from amp binding posts to speaker binding posts as per usual, and then another speaker cable came out of the same amp binding posts and went to the same speaker but connected to the other (unused) binding posts. But no biggy, if it works it works. As I typed, assuming all the cable runs are identical, I cannot see how it would make any difference which method you used. With the cables I was using, I would have been unable to do it the second way. I was using one grade of Kimber Kable to hook to my tweeter binding posts, and then I was using the next grade up of Kimber Kable to hook to my woofer/midrange driver binding posts. Thinking about it, I guess I could have used the smaller grade of Kimber for the grounds on both sides, but still, I had one of the pairs made with spades on the ends for the speakers and bananas on the amp end, therefore I wouldn’t have to double any of the spades up on top of each other at the amp end. (In other words, at the amp, the woofer pair of cables was connected via spades, and then the tweeter pair of cables was connected to the amp via bananas. |
I saw your link, @84xfirez-51 , and that was what I based my reply on. I am pretty sure I understand what you reconfigured your biwire to. |