Bi Wiring for speakers question


I've done some research on bi wiring speakers and have noted that some people are apparently using a speaker cable with 4 banana connectors on one end but only 2 on the other end.  I'm guessing that the side with 2 banana's is connected to the Amp or Receiver and the side with 4 to the speakers.

Anyone tried this and does it work as well as using 4 connectors on each side?  Seems to me that using all four speaker outputs on the amp is the right way to do it but if it will work with just one pair of speaker outputs then who am I to judge?
will62

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Bob.  Thanks for the info.

I have a two pairs of AQ Type 4 cables purchased separately that I use for one system. True bewaring as you call it.  

Going to buy a new set for my second system though I have been reading about the BJC Canare cables being excellent for the cost.  I have the option of buying four bananas and four pins with four cables or could purchase four of one and two of the other as well.  The 4 by 4 configuration does seem to be a true bi wire wire while the other method of using 4 on one side but 2 on the other does not.  

To be safe I may just order four separate cables to insure it is the same kind of wiring that I have with my first system.
yup.  Bought those Erik.  They didn't work with either pair and neither did the regular size.  Not sure why but I am not going to try to force them into the connectors.  
Spades don't fit my Castle Conway 3 Speakers nor my Mirage OM 10 speakers.  Go figure.  Tried them but they will not fit.
When I installed four pairs of AQ Type 4 into my system, I noted a big improvement in the bass in my Castle Conway 3 speakers.  I put on the album Love Beach by Emerson, Lake and Palmer as a test.  Has some very low bass notes in a couple of the songs.  My Mirage OM 10's could always play them even when not bi wired but the Castle's were not.  After bi wiring I could suddenly hear bass notes on that album on the Castle's that previously were unheard.  Overall the sound is much better than with two pairs of cables.
Separate brands?  In other words, use AQ Type 4 for one speaker and some other brand for the other speaker?  Or do I use one brand for the high end and the other brand for the low end?  Sounds odd.
gdnrbob.  Yes, I've already bi wired them to my system when I had the Castle Conway 3's paired to the Denon 520 amp.  But since both ends of the wires are Banana's I have to get new cables to match up the Denon with the Mirage OM 10's which only take Pins since the Spades never fit.  And the Yamaha A500 which also takes Pins but not Banana's will be matched to the Castle's with a new pair with Pins and Banana's.

Just bought a single pair of the BJC Belden 5000 cable to see how that sounds.  Will buy a second set to Bi Wire if they sound good.  Will likely get AQ again for the next set for the other system.
hifiman.  Thanks.  Yeah, I don't understand that advice either.  Will stick with the tried and true method of using the same kind of cable.  
Well, my BJC Belden 5000 10 gauge just came out of the box.  Disappointed.  Have found a broken pin and worse, the connector on one cable for the speaker side, which is supported to have a Banana plug on it is something different.  Won't fit.  The other cable is fine but clearly this other cable didn't pass QC yet somehow managed to find its way to me.  Will have to send it back and hope the replacement is correct.
gdnrbob.  I gave my AQ Type 4 with the spade lugs to a friend.  Even though I bought the cable with the larger spade lugs they still were too small for the Mirage OM 10's and Castle Conway 3 speakers.  Not sure why but they would still not fit.  Too small.

Have since found Banana's work on the OM 10's.  They had some kind of plastic insert with a small hole inside where the cables connect.  One problem solved now that I can use Banana's on both pairs of speakers.  No point in trying spades again the way I see it.

Debating now if I should just return the BJC and get a replacement cable or buy something else somewhere else.  The broken pin doesn't have me as pissed off as putting the wrong connector on the other side.  Fatter than a Banana and looks a little like an IC but it won't fit an RCA female connector when tried.

Any ideas?  Should I try another speaker cable manufacture or is this bad QC simply a fluke?
Just hooked up the Type 4 sets to my OM 10's and the Denon PMA520. Wonderful sound and a great pairing.  Better match than the Yamaha A500 amp which plays better with the Castle Conway 3 towers.  

I am going to get a replacement for it and hope the next one is made correctly.  I've read some good things about their cables and hope this time around they get it right.
Turns out the connectors are not what I expected.  Apparently they are locking Banana's.  They don't look like any other Banana's I've seen before.  Will try to get them to fit this weekend.  I may have to use bare wire or standard Banana's if these don't fit.
BFA then works OK with my speakers.  The one's that came with the BJC look like Interconnects with a fat tip.  Tried turning the collars all the way out but that still didn't work.  These things won't fit my speakers at all.  Will see what Wayne at BJC thinks I should do.  I am inclined to just cut the Banana's off and use bare wires at this point.  Same with the Pin's as well.  But I want to see what he thinks.  
BTW.  Have another problem.  My Denon PMA 520 is now acting up again.  Lost a channel and have also had dropouts on the one that still works.  Since I've now spent over $250 on this thing I am thinking it is best to replace it with something new.  Buying used stereo gear unless it is from a reputable shop, is a crap shoot.