Best used integrated under $5k


Hey guys

Preparing for a move out from our NYC apartment to a house in the suburbs. 
As part of that planning to create dedicated 2 channel space. At the moment using my salk sound speakers with marantz receiver. 
Plan is to get a new TT. Also last year I had done countless hours of auditions and based on that had settled on Wilson Sabrina. Planning to buy them used to save some dough. 
Also planning to buy used integrated. Want to spend < $5000. Short list is
- Hegel 360
- Luxman 509
- ML 585
- Audio Research VSI75
- Naim Supernait 2
- Krell Vanguard

Bunch of these brands are not that easy to find in the used market and you have to wait. 
Would appreciate any inputs on the above and anything else I should be looking at.
marrduk24
Hegel H390 is an excellent match with Wilson speakers. Here you can find a video comparing Hegel h390 and Mcintosh Ma352, both driving Wilson Yvettes.

https://youtu.be/CzK4U8pPqOY

The guys talking in this video are very experienced and they explain to you the type of sound you get from the Hegel H390 and the Mcintosh MA352.

Seems to me that the Hegel could be what you are looking for.

I really think this will give an idea about the Hegel sound, but is very important that you try to audition one to be sure.

5k is a lot of money and let me tell you by personal experience that is very easy to mess up things buying blindly. 

I know this is going to sound weird, but the Luxman actually sounds more tube like than the ARC VSI 75 in the sense of having a more wonderful, liquid midrange.


Have you considered Simaudio?  There is currently a 340i listed.  (No, I’m not the seller)
" but the Luxman actually sounds more tube like"
Does the OP want tube like?  I know I do.  But then why not buy tubes?  
Used vintage tube ~$1K range and they sound like tubes, because they are.  

Pages of posts on SS vs tube, but in a small apartment with an efficient speaker, tubes might be great.   

@marrduk24

responding to your reply earlier - i did not mean to say that the hegel h360 does not have a DAC (it certainly does)

what I meant to say is that the current gen hegels have specifically improved the DAC sections of the units over the prior gen ... thus, if you do not have a need to use the DAC in the H360, it is a good value used as an amplifier

conversely, if you wanted to use the onboard DAC, then best to get the latest gen H390 or H590 as these will provide the cleanest D to A conversion that Hegel offers

...either way, you are correct, you will need a separate phono stage if using a Hegel... they only have line level RCA inputs

sorry for my sloppy writing :)

and BTW - no affiliation here with Hegel... just a very happy and very impressed customer...