Best Tube to eliminate RFI


I have narrowed down an RFI problem in my system to the amp. It is not volume sensitive but unique to the right channel (channel nearest the outside wall of our apt). I changed pre-amp tubes from chinese stock to Mullard military grade and Siemens. Listening to the local college radio station when I want to hear nothing is annoying.

Short of shielding the whole amp with a grounded copper mesh any comments on the best tubes (anti-nuclear attack?) that might mitigate this problem?

system:
Jolida 302a integrated
Rega Planet CDP
Castle Acoustics Richmonds

Merci a l’avance.
keithcady

Showing 3 responses by atmasphere

Tubes don't pick up RFI, amps do. If the amp is properly laid out and using proper grid-stop resistors (similar resistors are found in all transistor gear) the amp will not pick up RFI.

I heard of a problem recently where RF was being picked up by gutters in the house! The customer lived near a radio station. Primitive diode junctions caused by rust in the gutters caused them to rectify the RF and vibrate. It took him a while to realize that the sound was coming from *outside* the house rather then from inside....
Sorry for my slow response- been out of town.

If you are having RF problems, the first thing to check (IMO) is whether or not grid stop resistors have been used in the design. If not, they should be installed before proceeding with any other solutions.

Grid stop resistors are usually installed as close to the tube socket pins as possible. Depending on the circuit, the value might vary from 150 ohms to 3K. 1K is usually pretty safe. As a grid stop resistor is a series device, any parts that were connected to the grid of the tube will be connected instead to the grid stop resistor, which connects to the grid. So the change is usually not too difficult to perform.

After all the tubes in the amp have been treated this way then it should be tested again for RF. Most likely that will have eliminated the issues, as the primary rectification point for the RF signal will have been reduced significantly. If the problem persists then I would pursue other means, grounding, RF beads, etc.

Good Luck with it!
Often tube shields are used to reduce hum pickup, which can still be a problem in RF circuits. Other reasons to install them include reducing noise and other nonlinear effects (especially in areas of strong RF fields). They are also used to reduce RF radiation, as in the case of TV tuners, shielding the local oscillator.

In most audio applications they are used to reduce hum pickup, not RF. We found some years back that when using the Russian ceramic sockets (that had shields) that the sockets and especially the shields did not help things one bit, as they contributed to stray capacitance effects, decreasing the cutoff frequency. Removing the shield was an easy way to improve performance.

If you are having RF problems with your gear, I recommend installing grid stop resistors. They are a series resistance with the signal, but you will find not only does the circuit sound better (and the RF is gone) but also the circuit will likely be quieter. High frequency stability in the circuit will be improved as well. And you won't have to worry about shields (unless you have a magnetic field from a power transformer to cope with).

If you look in older gear you will see that grid stops are quite common. For some reason, many 'new age' designers haven't seen the light....