I agree with Uru975; I just sold a PV10al a sweet sounding little gem it tis. I love the CONRAD JOHNSON sound. I especially adore AUDIO RESEARCH, there older models under 1k if your not concerned about phono stage are the sp6a they have sold for as low as 850.00 the (SP14) 1k and up. The better preamps are the (LS) line stage amps w/o phono stage. The (LS7) has sold for as little as 1k the (LS1)which is really an (SP9) w/o phono stage as little as 600.00