best phono preamps?

I have heard the Jadis DPMC and it is very nice, however it can only be used with medium output MC's otherwise it is too noisy. My dyna XV-1 at .38mv was too low output and too much tube noise was introduced into the system.

I think you need to give more of your personal musical bias's and what you are looking for the new phono to give you.

If you liked the Jadis phono stge, you are unlikely to like the Manley Steelhea or Einstein which are quite uncompromising or hifi-ish in their musical presentation

Dgob, How much does Raul charge for the 3160??

Do you miss the remote control, at least for volume?

What is the view of the 3160 now that you have livedwith it for some time? ie strenghts, weaknesses etc

Cmon guys, this is getting stupid.

There is more degredation in the musical signal before it gets onto vinyl for us to be worrying about 12 additional colorations a 1 metre cable makes.

I now have MC and MM stage inside my pre amp and the vinyl sounds wonderful. Vinyl also sounds wonderful on my seperate phono stage.

There are more sonic difference's going from LP to LP than there is comparing my internal and external phono stages.

We all tend to take subtle differences and AMPLIFY (& distort) them to the ridiculous.

Back to common sense now boys?

Raul

I think Jcarr has put you in your place.

Your normal condecending attitude has gone your phono and everything you do being the absolute truth to being designed for your priorities. Enough said - BTW nothing wrong with that - that is what music is all about - your musical priorities.

There is no one way to skin a cat and no one has magic ears, even you.

anhyway back to enjoying the music

Raul says " At the other end of the IC cable ( line stage input ) the additional " stages/veils/distortions/noises/colorations " are the same number: 6+6=12 !!! plus one meter of IC cable with all the IC cable self signal degradations."

This suits his argument and self advertising for phono stage and line stage to be together.

On the other hand Raul luvs tonearms with removable headshells. Now how many stages/veils/distortions etc do these have compared to non removable??.

Raul - What are you trying to say, except anything you say is correct and everything else is wrong.
Unless it is a respectable hifi business person like Atmosphere or Jcarr who never peddle their own products or push their own views. They actively give their views on audio which one can absorb, then make their own minds up.

You and Audiofeil should get married.

Raul says " At the other end of the IC cable ( line stage input ) the additional " stages/veils/distortions/noises/colorations " are the same number: 6+6=12 !!! plus one meter of IC cable with all the IC cable self signal degradations."

This suits his argument and self advertising for phono stage and line stage to be together.

On the other hand Raul luvs tonearms with removable headshells. Now how many stages/veils/distortions etc do these have compared to non removable??.

Raul - What are you trying to say, except anything you say is correct and everything else is wrong.
Unless it is a respectable hifi business person like Atmosphere or Jcarr who never peddle their own products or push their own views. They actively give their views on audio which one can absorb, then make their own minds up.

You and Audiofeil should get married.

David

Will be very interested in hearing the difference between the Alnic and TW Acustics phono stage. Are you getting the Alnic 1500??