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Stehno...I think I may have asked this before...I'll try again since I must've missed the reply...What is this "mechanical break-in" you're talking about?

Are you seriously implying that an equipment rack changes molecular structure everytime you move it and then it takes 4 days to change again? Even more so, are you saying this change is so drastic that it can be heard via the audio system sitting on it?

C'mon now...even the cryoing argument has more scientific validity than this.
The automobile "break-in" in the first 500 miles you refer to cannot be related to an audio equipment rack. Automobile "break-in" is actually a misnomer if called that. You're talking about a complicated device with fluids, many moving parts, constant maintenance, and countless other specific factors that can be directly correlated to change over time (more than 4 days I might add).

I don't know who told you about "mechanical break-in" of an audio equipment rack, but I'm all ears if this can be proven and shown translatable to an audible difference in the equipment sitting on it. The only problem is that this would be almost impossible to prove which makes me wonder how you are making such a categoric statement despite no conceivable logic behind it.

I would argue that the atmospheric pressure and humidity in you listening room 4 days apart has more to do with your system sounding different than any "mechanical break-in" of the audio rack. I could also come up with a few other more logical explanations for a perceived change in audio system performance over 4 days.
Stehno...I don't really follow you, but you're absolutely right.."I cannot attribute any experiences to mechanical break-in improvement"...That's why I asked the question... I'm pretty darn certain no one can, since it doesn't exist or would be close to impossible to prove.

Nevertheless, if it definitely exists in your world, then so be it. I would argue though that your explanation clarifies the issue even less than most "snake oil" claims.

BTW, I'm still open to a better explanation, but this seems to be going nowhere, so we'll just leave this as a point of disagreemnt.
So...if I follow correctly...an audio stand experiences mechanical break-in which signficantly improves the sound of the equipment sitting on it after 4 days because:

1. Automobiles experience break-in
2. Cables burn-in
3. The End Pin for a Cello caused a perceived change in performance after 30 minutes.

Gotcha...all clear now...thank you!

BTW, I did some testing myself and found that my rack is not broken in yet because I haven't heard a significant difference attributable to its micronic movement. It's been almost 6 months, so it must really suck...On a lighter note, I found that my butt mechanically breaks-in to my listening chair after only 3.2 minutes. More "scientific" testing similar to you guys to follow...

Seriously, not to pick a fight, but I just think you guys are both jumping to conclusions and ignoring much more plausible and obvious factors - not the least of which is mostly subjective human factors.

For example, is it possible to play an instrument EXACTLY the same indefinitely? Perhaps the instrument sounded the same for a few minutes after changing the pin because it was being played the same. However, as more time passes, many subjective human factors could easily cause the sound to change simply by the way it was being played.

In Stehno's case, was the material being played the same, was the volume the same, was his head in exactly the same spot, was the noise floor in the house the same (i.e. A/C running, fans, appliances, cars passing in the street, dogs barking in the neighborhood, etc)? I could go on, but I think you get the point. There are many factors to consider before jumping to a conclusion - especially one that has no basis in logic, science or common sense. Does this statement/conclusion REALLY make sense -- "inneraction of pin and cello settle into some type of mutual relationship in transmission of vibrational patterns that are sympathetic for a certain amount of time"?

Since you guys like analogies...think about those people who believe in that clown who claims to speak to the dead. Just because he knows one letter in the dead relative's name, do you jump to the imediate conclusion that he is a psychic??? Or....do you ask...."If the he can give you the letter "J" in the name of your dead father, why can't he give you the "O" and the "E"?