Best Analog for $10K


I’ve spent considerable money and time assembling a great all-digital two-channel audio system. I want to experience vinyl reproduction. My budget is $10-12K for turntable, arm, cartridge, phono cable, and phono stage.
Two things I do not want. One is to get on a spiraling upgrade path. The second is to avoid too much fiddling and tweaking and adjusting.
I am open to used or refurbished equipment, as well as new gear.
I primarily listen to Jazz and Rock music. Very little classical.
Thoughts?
imgoodwithtools

Showing 9 responses by rauliruegas

@atmasphere  : I remember that  in other thread the stereo/mono issue was under dialogue and you posted something like this: that CD can be recorded with stereo bass but the " operators " because " to lazy " they did not and in LP can be recorded in stereo too but is expensive to do it.

You don't mentioned the recorded information in the tape in the way you are doing here.

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Saying that tape doesn't suffer EQ is ridiculous. """

no it's not because I refered in specific to the exactly and precise RIAA eq, additional I was precsie to post: whole LP playback process that between other things means a second inverse RIAA eq. and all the other " problems " through the analog rig.

I don't have any experience with a studio recordings for CD/LP sesssions but after that hot discussion in the thread started by RM ( designer Music Reference. ) about the RIAA issue I left to have 100% trust in you about the whole recording process.

So and because my ignorance/no experience I can take your word as 100% true or maybe not but still your " observation " is not was the OP ask. Yes you are free to post whatever you want.

R.


Dear @ct0517  : Thank's. I could think that atmasphere knews exactly what I refered to, but....???

I can add to your post: inverse RIAA eq too, disortions/resonances/vibrations developed in between cartridge ridding LP modulations then the developed resonances developed by the TT/tonearm feedback. LP playback process is a " nigthmare " but even that sounds good.


R.
Dear @atmasphere  : I posted that way because the playback process in R2R does not develops so many distortions as the LP playback whole process and because in the tape was not recorded the RIAA eq. curve and low registers comes in stereo.

Anyway, digital beats analog like it or not.

R.
Dear @iamgoodwithtools :  """  I want the best audio reproduction I can afford during that time. """

if that's true then you can honor your words up-grading your digital gear. Hi-res Streamers and today DACs are really great and not even for 20K LPs can not only outperforms it but not even today digital.

But it's not only about money but true/real knowledge level to make an nalog rig overll set ut for that analog rig could shows t its best nd tht knowledge levels takes to any one not weeks or months but yers of hard self lerning lessons. Have you the time an patience for that and from whom learn it? have you an idea what means whole analog set up knowledge and skills levels?

Is up to you .

R.




@clearthink :  I'm refering with analog to LPs, I'm not talking of analog tapes.

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has been clearly shown, demonstrated, and revealed to be completely ..""

in other threads the digital vs LP fulfilled that statement even in those discusions was proved that in our ears/brain relationship every human been has an ADC. It is at the inner ear and the way we detect sound.

Distortions levels specially in the playbck process is huge in LP vs digital playback process. Even does not exist continuity in the LP playback process.
You need to read all those posts, no I do not repeat or paste it, is your home work if interested to learn why is that way an not your wrong way of thinking.

Enough. digitAl vs LP is not the OP. Just pertinent opinion for some one with almosto no LP software.

R.

Dear @iamgoodwithtools :  Well important as is the hardware the software is more important and 200 LPs could does not makes " an analog experience ".

"""  Two things I do not want. One is to get on a spiraling upgrade path. The second is to avoid too much fiddling and tweaking and adjusting. """

Those just does not exist in analog, here does not exist " plug and play " not even over time because VTF, cartridges, VTA or AZ always needs to re-set or the choosed tonearm/cartridge alignment.

In the other side today digital technology already ouitperformed the best analog and digital will continue its growing up developments when analog already stopped many years ago and will stays in that way.

10K or 20K is not the issue, the issue is that digital beats analog no matter what.

Yes you want live the experience of analog and what you will get will be a different sound but certainly not a true better sound.

Could be better to use those 10K for up-grade your digital whiole rig and you will be more happy than using that money in analog.

Only an opinion but I know that the best opinion is yours.

Btw, I like analog and own over 7K LPs that can't beats digital not even the D2D recordings.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.
Dear @iamgoodwithtools : "  I want to experience vinyl reproduction.."

How many LPs do you own?

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.