Belles Greatest Integrated ever! The Virtuoso

Audiozen,

Horse hockey. Just for the facts we had auditioned Belles last series of electronics, we broke them in for a week and listened to them.

They were okay at best no magic, no giant killing anything.

We read the Aria review and maybe that piece is really good, we haven't heard the new Aria so no judgement and maybe it is radically better than his older stuff, but if the man is such a genius as you proclaim why was his last series of stuff now being replaced by a newer design?

In terms of how giant killing or how musical, listen to a Unison Research Primo a 75 watt tube hybrid and their larger Unico 50 now the 90.

We had a one time the $5k Luxman 20 Watt pure class A, and the Hegel H200 and the Unison was far better sounding because it was a hybrid.

When you add tubes into a circuit you can combine the musicality of what tubes do with the power and drive and bass control of solid state.

The point is there are many good sounding products. What the issue is your headline and your follow up which is basically saying Belles stuff is better than everyone.

The point is yes the new Aria may be really good, Belles track record has been up and down and he is a tiny, tiny, manufacturer.

We had reservations also due to the esteemed Mr. Belle's age, I think he is in his 70's does he even have a transition plan in place if he crooks? Does he have a partner or children ready to step in and continue to support his products, you might make the same argument with many other high end audio companies, then again maybe not.

Not trying to be down, but when you have an older gentleman building electronics which can break this can be a concern to some people.

The reality Audiozen, is this is a small community, if Belles products killed everything, these would be a lot more people chiming in about their stuff.

As per Mr. M, please grow up, this is not about trolling.

When someone makes a ridiculous statement that product X is the only speaker or amp or whatever is good or is the best, that triggers our agenda radar and Mr. M I am sure it must trigger yours as you would not have come up with your trolling comment.

Mr. M. we sell four reference grade loudspeakers and five if you count the Polymer Audio Research speakers.

On display Kef Blades, Paradigm Persona 9H, Legacy Aeris, Dali Epicon 8, and the Polymers. These speakers all range in price from $25k to $68k.

Which one is the best? Answer they are all great and all different.

If you look at the reviews all of these speakers have been top rated.

My point is beauty and musicality are in the ear of the beholder as well as the solidity of the setup.

Some people love Wilson, some don't some love B&W, some don't and there are of course the Vandy fans and the Vandy non fans.

We would never say that any of our reference speakers are better than any of the others, we prefer them that doesn't mean a particular listener is going to.

So Audiozen, which is better a Mercedes, a BMW, an Audi, a Lexus etc.

Not based on resale, trunk size, repair history, which one is  better?

Answer all of them are great it is a matter of the particular buyer figuring out for themselves which one they like better and for what reason.

So to recap, Belles may be wonderful, is it better than anything else up to the listener to determine.

Good luck to you Mr. M. and Audiozen, just remember there are many good products, nobody builds the best of anything, it is a matter of taste.

Please tell me we are wrong. Or are you better than us?

Dave and Troy

Audio Doctor NJ

Oh by the way Mr. M. we get calls and emails all the time from people who have read our posts and find our perspective refreshing and informative.

Mr. M please stick to the topic as hand. Which is Belles.

Yes Audiozen, Belles is better than Gryphon, Vitus, T+A, D'agastino, Audio Research, Dartzeel, Conrad Johnson, sure.

Sure at all the shows all those mega speaker companies aren't showing with Belles because of a retail conspiracy.

Sure David Belles has tons of patents in audio engineering and circuit design compared to Thomas Holman, David Hafler, Nelson Pass and many others.

My shop is open, please bring in your best Belles rig we can compare to T+A, Conrad Johnson, Naim, Unison Research, Micromega and a ton of other great companies.

I am willing to eat my hat would you be?

As per sweet spot system try a set of Dali Opticons with a Nuprime IDA 8 killer system $3,500.00 or the new Rega Brio. Point is there a ton of good and musical systems you just have to find one that you like.

Dave and Troy

Audio Doctor NJ