Bananas rule, spades drool. End of discussion.


I just checked my speaker connections. All using bananas, all nice and tight.

The number of times I’ve had spades get loose instead though.....

Point is, and it really is kind of a tongue in cheek thing, bananas beat spades for long term reliability in almost all setups.  If you have to use a Cardas or Mundorf speaker terminal to ensure your spades stay tight it kind of proves my point.

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I checked my spades (2 spades on the amp end in combination with 2 bananas and 4 spades on the speaker end) tonight, and they were tight.  It's been at least two or three years since I messed with them at either (amp or speaker) end.

Now I guess I am going to have to go back and check my spades.

(I am bi-wired, so at the amp end I actually do have a pair of bananas and a pair of spades.)

But I cannot ever recollect any of my spades coming loose.  I tighten them as tight as I can get them by hand and then give them a tiny tweak with a pair of pliers.  I wish they had a hex head, but I guess the reason that they don't is because people would be going ballistic and over-torquing and stripping?

Vice-grips on your binding posts?  Really?  Must do wonders for resale.  AudioQuest makes a great hand wrench that fits both terminal sizes.

@coppy777  , I just did a quick google on those and found a picture on AA.  Unfortunately, my B&W binding posts do not have hex heads, they are round heads with I guess what would be referred to as knurls on them.  I am a retired mechanic, so I have an excess of sockets and wrenches, and if they did have hex heads that would make my life a lot easier; as it is I use a pair of small channel locks to give them a tweak with after I hand tighten them.  I assume that B&W did not use hex heads because they felt that folks would be smoking them down and stripping them out.

@coppy777  , here is a picture of kind of what mine look like.  I did the search for that AQ wrench you mentioned because I was thinking that maybe it was machined to match those (what I am referring to as) knurls that B&W used on my binding posts.  I guess I could replace them with better posts (like maybe Cardas?) but one of my fatal flaws is probably laziness, and once I have the spades attached and satisfactorily torqued, it's kind of like "out of site/out of mind."  As I typed earlier, however, on the rare occsions that I do have to mess with them, I always wish that they did have hex heads.  I guess I could by a set of eight (I am biwired) Cardas(?) posts with hex-heads, and next time I have to remove the speaker wire spades I guess I could then change them . . . I guess I could do that. . . .

 

They're heavy brass, not good.

That link was onlty to illustrate what my binding posts look like.  I don't know what B&W actually used.

I have been told many times by folks more knowledgeable than I that the best sound is from finger tight connection and using more will degrade the sound.

I cannot comprehend why that would be, but there is a long long list of stuff in that category.  And maybe that would explain why B&W did not use hex heads for their binding posts. 

but from my in depth studies on a dozen other things that shouldn’t matter, but do… little stuff that other folks with more experience than I recommend that don’t cost much, I’ll just do. Not worth the hours of fiddling to figure it out.

I agree--no argument here.