B&W Nautilus Subwoofer to match N804s


I am slowly but surely building my complete Nautilus home theater system. Yes, I haven't eaten anything for a while, but it is worth it. I have purchased the N804s for left/right and the HTM-1 for center. Eventually I will buy two more N804s for the rear (or possibly upgrade to the N803 for the front). Anyway, other B&W owners, what sub do you have with your system? Does B&W make a worthy sub, or should I look to something else? My room is about 17x15, and the sub will be along the side wall, not in the corner. Thanks.
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If home theater is your priority - REL might be too refined a unit for you. While they produce a very musical subwoofer, it doesn't quite have the slam required to produce the "WOW FACTOR" needed for home theater impact.

For home theater, bass doesn't really need to be as "tight" as in 2 channel audio - so a fast sub like Velodyne HGS 12 would be un-necessary (but would work well).

Having seen many of your posts on Audiogon in the past, I'm confident that 2 channel is also important to you. Therefore, I would recommend the following - Three Subs.

Your room is similar in size to mine and I know that any B&W ASW sub (except the 2500) will rock your foundation. While B&W's subs have NONE of the tightness or musicality of REL or Velodynes high end, they do produce bass capable of making your friends jaws drop and eyes pop out of their heads.

My former system was similar to yours in that I had B&W Nautilus all around and the cheap ASW1000 worked great for home theater. It was however lacking when it came to 2 channel sound. Its timbre matches the N range perfectly but it's not a "fast" sub. I never knew how much of the bass I was missing until I got a Velodyne HGS. Before buying the Velodyne, I tried all that B&W had to offer. The "high end" ASW4000 was very sloppy sounding but... has a nice 3 input feature for left,right and theater.

I realize you are looking for a subwoofer to fit your decor as you require it be positioned on the side wall. Without L/R subs, trust me, you will grow tired of that setup quickly. Because the side of the room with the sub will seem to have more weight and body - your thoughts will constantly wander to that side of the room.

My suggestion may not fit your decor but would be ideal if you can move stuff around a bit. Start off with an ASW1000 positioned as close to front and center of your room as possible. It's shielded and if you could figure out a way to get it under the tv, behind the TV (might cause resonance/vibration) or any where near the front of the room, it will work and you'll have a nice balance for home theater and will not be drawn or distracted to one side of the room or the other when listening/viewing.

Given that the ASW1000 is not a HUGE investment, you could experience immediate gratification but then you can drive to perfection by starving yourself for a few months until you can afford a pair of either:

1) REL
2) Velodyne
3) ACI Titan (http://audioc.com/speakers/speakers.htm)

Get two and position them behind your front L/R speakers or on either side of the room.
For home theater, it is FINE to use two different types of subs - for two channel it is a mistake.