Autoformers, The Benefits in matching amp to speaker



There has been a great deal of conversation about Autotransformers in this forum. Many think they are similar to the output transformers we use on Tube Amplifiers. They are not for some very important reasons. They are not wound the same way, they have no High Voltage insulation, they are wound with heavy low resistance wire and all the winding is used all the time. In addidtion part of the signal current is direct and part is transformed. 

  • THE WINDING.  When we make a traditional output transformer we have to insulate the primary from the secondary for over 1000 volts. This insulation takes up space and winding space is most dear to the designer as we want as much copper in there as possible. We then have to section the windings and interleave them. An interleave of 5 is good and some think 7 or 9 or even 11 is better but that raises the capacitance of the transformer and is hard on the tubes at high frequencies. An autotransformer has no DC voltage in the windings and thus can be bifilar wound (taking 2 or 3 or more wires at once). This increases the coupling and extends the high frequency response by a factor of 2 or more. My ouput transformers are good to 65 KHz and the Autofomer is good to 140 KHz. 

  • THE CORE: As to the core, an EI core is preferable over a torroid as the torroid will have saturation problems if connected to an amplifier that has a DC offset. An offest as low as 20 mV can swing the core in one direction toward saturation. An EI core has a very small air gap that will allow it to ignore rather large offesets. 

  • IN THE AMPLIFIER: Here's where the difference is between a conventional output transformer and a Autoformer occurrs. This is why Wiggins at Electro Voice created the CIrclotron circuit. In a conventional tube amplifier. for most of the signal, only one half of the output transformer is active. It is very difficult to make the two halves of a push pull transformer identical above 20 KHz where the feedback really cares about phase shift. Even the taps on an Ultralinear transformer can go out of phase at high frequencies. This causes the amplifier to ring on one half of the square wave. Though not widely talked about, we who design amplifiers are very familair with this problem. Wiggins realized that if he put the transformer in a bridge circuit that the primary would act as a whole and this problem would go away. That is the essence of the WIggins Circlotron. Because he wanted to keep the ampifier efficient he did use a high ratio transformer with conventional taps. BTW, we do not put taps on an amplifier to "match" the impedance of the speaker as we know it varies. We put them on there to deliver the proper ratio of voltage and current to make the amplifier happy. You can always use a lower tap and enjoy lower distortion, better damping, lower noise and extended tube life. You also extend the class A region. The only reason to use a higher or matched tap is to get the most power out of the amplifier if you play it loud. In the RM-4 manual I suggest this strongly and have termed it "Light Loading"

Now, what is an Autoformer going to do for you? If you have an OTL amplifier you should know that the power is greatly reduced into low impedance loads. Even worse is that low impedance loads will overheat the tubes at high power levels as most of the power supply voltage is being dropped across the tube not the load. So low impedance loads are hard on the tubes and cause higher distortortion All of these ills can be solved by the use of a proper Autoformer.
  
For OTL amplifiers that have high output impedance and produce their best performance into 16-32 ohms one needs a 6 or 8 to one step down ratio. This will make the speaker and amplifier very happy and still preserve the qualities of the OTL. A 4 to 1 is not enough. This is no problem to make and I have been using mine for many years.

An Autoformer can also be used in reverse if one has a low voltage, high current amplifier like an ML-2 which is 25 watts into 8 ohms but 100 into 2. Again a 4 to one will get you 100 watts and and an 8 to one even more. Remember the impedance ratio is the turns squared. So an even a 9 to 1 impedance is only 3 to 1 turns and 1/3 of the signal is direct through the primary.

I hope this clears up the differences in these two very different types of transformers and we can stop considering them as the same. While some may consider a transformer a band-aid, I consider it a device that makes the problem go away.

Please feel free to ask your questions.
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@partroysound---Yeah, at Pass Labs. Or Reno Hi-Fi, First Watt and Pass Labs' primary retailer. atmasphere’s Marchand suggestion is worth looking into, though their x/o’s contain Opamps (if that bothers you) and are known to have occasional reliability problems. If Roger Modjeski’s (Music Reference) x/o is in your price range, I’d jump on it. Great, great tube design engineer. I may look into it as well, though I use a simple 1st order filter to roll off the bottom end of my loudspeakers, using a capacitor on the inputs of my power amp (Music Reference RM-200 Mk.2), the most transparent (and cheap!) way to do it, if 1st order (6dB/octave) works in your application. The value of the cap is determine by the input impedance of your amp and the corner frequency you desire. The formula for determining the cap value for your application is all over the web.

@partroysound---ESS Super Quads! I have the Transtatics, which has the same KEF B139 woofers in transmissionline enclosures and RTR ESL tweeters as does the Super Quad. For the Super Quad, ESS used the Quad ESL in place of the KEF B110 5" midrange driver used in the Transtatic. 

I have a real nice little active electronic crossover, the First Watt B4, designed and made by Nelson Pass of course. It has unfortunately been recently discontinued (Nelson sold them all, and decided to not do another run), but had a list price of $1500. Give him a ring, he may know of someone who has one to sell. Nelson built it with all discrete components---no Opamps, no IC's. It provides 1st-2nd-3rd-4th order filters (6-12-18-24dB/octave), in 25Hz increments from 25Hz to 3200Hz. He has a much more expensive model available in his Pass line-up. REAL nice, but too much moola for me.

Great post desktopguy. I was lucky in having a good hi-fi retailer in my area (Los Angeles) who was an enthusiastic Music Reference dealer. He also sold Jadis, VTL, and other much higher-priced amplifiers, for those who were as interested in bragging rights as in good sound. I need no such confirmation, and my RM-200 Mk.2 is the last amp I'll ever need. I might eventually pick up an RM-10 for my Quad ESL's, the best amp in the world for that speaker.
George, Roger happened to mention the Acoustat speakers in his 90 minute presentation at the 2015 Burning Amp Festival, talking about why the Acoustat amp was discontinued in favour of the amplifier interface. Roger actually makes a direct-drive amp for the Acoustats, which can be used in place of their interfaces. The Acoustat speakers were fine, their electronics not so much.

The situation with component systems is that you have to buy the engine (the power amp) and the car (the loudspeaker) separately. The transformer taps allow the same engine (amp) to be used with different cars (speakers).

Audiophiles have historically resisted powered speakers, right? They should reconsider in the case of Music Reference, whose Roger Modjeski is offering his own ESL speaker with a dedicated, direct drive tube power amp. No ESL transformer, no power amp transformer! And no speaker cables!!

Roger, It’s great to have you contributing here on AudiogoN. I really miss your AudioCircle Forum! We met twice when you came to Brooks Berdan’s shop in Monrovia to give talks. The first time, I was the long-hair who asked you why you recommended a single RM-9 for stacked Quads rather than a pair of RM-10’s. You told me you considered the headroom afforded by the RM-9 to be of great significance and benefit. I asked if the load of paired quads on each channel of an RM-9---whether run in series or parallel---would not be of more concern than headroom? And if wouldn’t a single Quad on each of four RM-10 channels would not be preferable? The second time you told me you had been reconsidering my question, and had changed your mind. :-)

Side note: I know very few musicians who are audiophiles (most are far too poor, for one thing). The one I do is, as am I, a drummer (he’s currently working with guitar-great Albert Lee), and his speakers are---stacked Quads! Maggies are also great at reproducing drums, but they don’t have the liquid, see-through transparency of ESL’s. Roger, I’m dying to hear your direct-drive ESL’s; maybe on my next trip to the Bay Area.

ATENTION ALL TUBE AMP OWNERS! I just spent 90 minutes watching and listening to a video of Roger giving a lecture at the 2015 Burning Amp Festival. That 90 minutes is the best investment in time (something of increasing value to me as I approach the end of the line ;-) I have EVER made. Roger covers many aspects of tube amplifier design in deep detail, then takes questions from the attendees, some of them audiophiles, but many amateur and professional tube amp designers, one of whom appears (off screen) to be Mike Sanders of Quicksilver. If you own a tube amp, or are considering getting one, you NEED to watch and listen to the lecture too.

I’m one of those idiots who doesn’t know how to attach websites, so here’s how to see the video:

1- Go to "berekelyhifischool.com". Along the top of the website you will see "COURSES", "CLASS NOTES", etc. Go over to "RESOURCES" and a drop-down menu will appear. The first of three choices will be "VIDEOS". Click on it, and you will be taken to a new page. On the right hand side of the page will be "ARCHIVES". Find October 2015 and click on it. The video will start.

2- I suppose you could also find the video by doing a search on You Tube, but you may as well look at the rest of the Berkeley Hi Fi School site too!

There is a current thread here on AudiogoN from a guy who took two pair of LFT-8b's and "stacked" them. Each 8b speaker is comprised of a 1' w x 4' h panel containing two LFT "midrange" drivers (180Hz-10kHz) and one ribbon tweeter (10kHz up), and an 8" dynamic woofer (180Hz down) in a sealed enclosure. He made new metal frames for stacking, into which he installed two LFT drivers side-by-side, with two more above them, and one ribbon tweeter beside each pair of LFT drivers---two total. The two woofer enclosures sit below the frame, the stacked LFT-8b measuring about 5' tall by 2' wide. A pair of LFT-8b's retail for $2495, so for less than the price of a pair of Magneplanar MG3.7i you can have stacked LFT-8b's. Think about it!

A single pair of LFT-8b's are one of the best deals in all of hi-fi. Harry Weisfeld of VPI recently stated he considers the midrange reproduction afforded by the LFT-8b the finest he has ever heard. I disagree only to the extent that I consider the old Quad (which I own, in addition to LFT-8b's and Magneplanar Tympani T-IVa's) still the gold standard in that regard. But the ET's play a lot louder!

Note to people who love the sound of both magnetic-planar loudspeakers and tube amps: the Eminent Technology LFT-8b is a much better candidate for use with tube amps (especially OTL’s) than are Magneplanars. I love and have owned three pair of Maggies (currently one---the legendary Tympani-IVa), but they present a 3-4 ohm load to the power amp, while the LFT-8b an 8 ohm. And, if you bi-amp the LFT-8b (easy to do---it has separate binding posts for the m-p drivers and the dynamic woofer), the Linear Field Transducer itself is a mostly-resistive 11 ohm load---ideal for tubes! The Atma-Sphere M60 is known to be a great amp for the ET LFT-8b, as is the Music Reference RM-200.

Damn, this is great! For those in the San Francisco Bay Area, Roger Modjeski (RAM Tubes, Music Reference) teaches a course in amplifier design at The Berkeley Hi Fi School. You can build your own amp in the class, any kind you want. My home town is San Jose, and if I still lived there I’d do it myself. If you Google the school name, a website will be at the top of the list, and it contains all kinds of great amplifier design information.

If you truly want to "Walk the walk", this is the way to do it, not sticking pieces of wood and rubber in a 70’s Japanese receiver. Beware of false Prophets!