Audiosilente idler wheel versus Artisan Fidelity idler wheel for a Garraed 401


Greetings,
I am considering upgrading to a new idler wheel for my Garrard 401. Reviews on forums seem to agree that there is a noticeable improvement in sound achieved. There are two possibilities that I am considering. 

The Audiosilente idler wheel is US$365
Artisan Fidelity is approx. Euros 100.

I ma wondering if anyone has any commentary are experience which of these two may offer the greatest improvements. I am certainly interested in an improvement in dynamics and everything else that is possible!

Artisan Fidelity https://www.artisanfidelity.com/accessories/garrard-301-precision-idler-wheel

Material - Austenitic Stainless Steel CNC machined case hardened CNC ground inner coupling pin, near true zero measured radial run-out.  State-of-the-Art CNC/CAM Machining achieves ultra close tolerances and accurate concentric form. Heavy weight enhances flywheel effect.Periphery Outer Drive Material - Concentric, Molded Seamless Rubber based Composite, precision CNC ground, near zero measured axial run-out. Manufactured as direct OEM Garrard 301 Schedule I & II / Garrard 401 / Garrard 501 Model replacement part.

The Audiosilent is aluminum with a square rubber outside ring.
http://www.audiosilente.com/garrard-401-idler-wheel-garrard-401.html

Any commentary would be most welcome.
Thank you, 

mozartbrain

Showing 5 responses by lewm

I'm glad someone else revived this thread.  Up the thread, I wrote to Mozart: "Machining down the diameter of the idler would reduce platter speed."  Xactaudio seemed to disagree with me.  I am always ready and willing to learn if I made an error in abstract reasoning, which is entirely possible. I still think, all other things being equal, that an idler wheel of smaller diameter compared to original would cause the platter to travel a shorter distance for every revolution of the idler wheel.  Hence, the platter speed would be reduced unless idler wheel rotational speed were to be increased accordingly with the reduction in its diameter.  Am I wrong?  If so, I still cannot see it.
Mozart, There’s got to be more to that story. Machining down the diameter of the idler would reduce platter speed. That could be compensated by increasing drive speed but would hardly suffice to improve dynamics.
That's certainly the goal.  What you observed implies that the motor can overcome any additional load that might be imposed by the higher mass idler wheel.  (I intentionally used the word "might".)
 I wasn’t thinking that the heavier idler wheel would actually affect average platter speed. I was thinking that a lighter idler wheel would make the response time more rapid. By which I refer to the response to stylus drag or bearing friction or other factors that might put a drag on the platter. Because the motor only has to motivate the platter. Maybe The weight of the idler wheel or its moment of inertia is analogous to the compliance of a belt in a belt drive turntable. A belt with low compliance would be like a very light idler wheel.
In theory, wouldn’t you want a low moment of inertia, so the motor doesn’t have to do work to move the idler, in addition to moving the platter ? If so, I would choose aluminum over steel. The idler should instantaneously transmit force to the platter. (I don’t own a Garrard but do own a Lenco.)