Audiophiles on Audiogon.

If you turn a troll post into intelligent discussion they lose. If you just get angry, they win.

This is his intro @audioman58 , you may be off bass with your sonic bliss comment.

I'm a music lover and former musician, broadcast and recording engineer. I was earning money in audio engineering and selling my own original music recordings long before I made money in photography. I thank God I'm not an audiophile; those weirdos hate music and only love playing with their stereo equipment.

My grandma was Henry Steinway's personal secretary from 1942-1973, and my parents are accomplished musical performers who met in a chorus. I've been designing my own recording equipment since the third grade, and been training and performing music since the fourth grade.

@roxy54 , my inability to spell often has funny unintended consequences.

@russ69 , then similarly, how can you tell that a $20,000 cable improves the sound over a $100 cable, unless you listened to both, without the knowledge of which one you were listening to at any point in time.

I work on developing technology for batteries. Myself and my competitors have access to almost any equipment we want due to how big the $ prize is. Anytime we have a positive improvement, no matter the quality of our equipment or how sure we are we did not make a mistake, we still repeat the experiment several times, preferably with independent teams, just to be sure.

It's just a hobby, but would it not be prudent to assume we could be mistaken before we assume with limited information we are absolutely correct?

@yoyoyaya 

Interesting to compare. Camera performance can be objectively measured and everyone seems to a accept the results. Camera sensors have reached an asymptote in performance with only small gains generation to generation now. In photography everyone wants the best technical performance and then adjusts the final result to taste in software.

The one similarity to hifi audio is that hifi has also reached a technical plateau. The response to that is much different.

You will not like the rest of the article Mahgister though perhaps there is some truth. He did get off the rails a bit and made a comparison that I found rather offensive and I will not repeat here as it showed rather poor judgment on his part.

An audiophile will waste days comparing the sound of power cords or different kinds of solder, but won't even notice that his speakers are out-of-phase. An audiophile never enjoys music; he only listens to the sound of audio equipment.

@jackhifiguy , it is good form to provide a link to material you reference:

https://www.kenrockwell.com/audio/audiophile.htm

Mahgister, by the simple act of posting what you did, which could be wrong, you are, are you not, pretending to be right?

I agree in principle there is a better correlation to what can be readily seen in a photography image and how a person will perceive it, versus what happens with sound hitting our ears. Most of our discussion is not about sound though, it is about electricity. There is far less room for interpretation even if that will become a sound.

I think the bigger difference is in the perception of those participating in each hobby. We have no illusions in photography that a 2 dimensional photograph can ever accurately portray the full 3 dimensional experience of stereoscopic imagery. We not only readily accept deviations from accuracy, we encourage it. We want our reds redder, our blues bluer, we often want the background blurred to highlight the foreground, and we may even reduce the resolution on facial skin to hide blemishes. What’s more, we can readily compare the result side by side. In audio we have deluded ourselves that we are trying to recreate an original performance, when that is both impossible, but probably in most cases undesirable. We want the feel of a live performance, but all the benefits that exist because it was not recorded as a live performance would be experienced.

Perhaps your comment @russ69 is because I repeatedly pointed out incorrect information in the topic you started?  I am not an expert but technical enough that what you posted seemed unlikely and was easily researched as incorrect. If that makes me a troll what does that make the real experts?