Attention Horn Owners


Hey guys. I’m in the middle of making a few changes and seek your wisdom and help. Doing my research for speakers, I currently own Audio Note e/lx, and I think I might need a little more bass presence. These are wonderful, natural sounding speakers but I’m debating a change. Slightly more efficient would be nice, the AN’s are listed at 94db but some say measure closer to 92db. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. 
Now for the post title. Doing my research I came across Volti. I like purchasing American made when I can, my amp and preamp are Aric Audio. I’ve never heard a horn speaker before. Reviews of some say they tend to be bright, which is a no go for my sensitive ears. Reviews did mention that Volti are not bright. So, any comments regarding ear fatigue and horn speakers or Volti speakers would be fantastic. 
‘Finally, I live on Long Island. If there is any nearby who would be kind enough to allow me to listen to a horn speaker, there’s a six pack or bottle of wine in it for you! lol. I’d love to hear a pair before I spend 1 million hours researching different ones. Thanks in advance. Earthbound

earthbound

@earthbound wrote:

[...] Not set on horns but want efficient speakers with substantial bass. 

This (i.e.: the issue with the size of speakers needed to accommodate above quoted section, with reference to Hofmann's Iron Law) has been addressed already, but in continuation of my recommendation of the Stage Accompany speakers should include their bigger sibling, the M59's to give you more "substantial bass." Big speakers? Yes, but once you've said A what follows is B. 

@larryi wrote:

My number one pet peeve about speaker manufacturers is the lack of driver controls on multi-way speakers.  Do they really think the levels they chose are optimal for all listener preferences, all rooms, all locations of the speaker, all upstream equipment choices? [...]

Good point, and which is one of the reasons why outboard active speakers are so compelling; here, with a quality DSP, you can adjust the level of every driver section pre-amplification in 0.1-0.25dB increments from the listening position via your laptop/tablet (that's what you need to do anyway when level matching the driver sections actively). Not only that, but one can make small amplitude corrections/notches at a single frequency point with varying Q's in each of the driver bands. So, no post-amplification adjustments via tone control add-ons. 

Please note that what I'm referring to above isn't Digital Room Correction, but simply "equalization" measures done manually by the listener. When used this way that's what a DSP basically is, an equalizer, but as part of the digital crossover itself with many more options and, again, prior to amplification. So, not an extra measure post- or pre-amplification as you would in a passive speaker context. 

Was just thinking of that yesterday as I took my morning walk. Such a shame audiophile equipment frowns upon tone controls. My right ear doesn’t hear as well and I would love to just move a balance knob a hair. Or turn down the treble a bit on a bad recording etc…Anyway they are nice from the videos I’ve seen and the few reviews I’ve read. Professional level gear for sure. A shame not very popular here and none around. 

My JBL speakers have Voltage controls for mid frequency level @ 2000 Hz and high frequency level @ 12000 Hz I also have a 10 band White 4100 EQ. 😎

Mike 

I remember my old AR 10’s had an increase and decrease switch for each high, medium and low drivers. Was a cool feature. I remember having to adjust them when I moved and had hard wood floors vs carpeting. 

I have a one-off pair of Altec Super Big Reds (604E2s) in furniture cabinets (oak) that are tri-amped with a one-off electronic crossover and one-off passive eq units to go between the amp and the horn drivers.

I drive them with vintage Marantz equipment including two 170DCs for the four woofers and an 1180DC to serve as the preamp and power amp the horn drivers.  I bought these from a recording studio that went out of business.  I also have the matching 2130 tuner with the scope.

I was trying to track down their origin, but Doug Sax passed away a couple years prior to when I got them.

When we had a meeting here of the JBL people, everyone agreed that these were the best 604s they had ever heard.  If you were on the west coast, you would be welcome to come by and hear these.

BTW, I really don't listen to these much and they could be had, but only as a complete set.  All amps were recently serviced.  Would be he-- to ship those 15.5 cu ft, exterior volume, cabinets from the left coast!

 

https://youtu.be/iGa9259pz-I