Are there other Artisan Fidelity TT owners aorund?


So after being an audio hobbyist since my uncle got me going down this demented path some 17 years ago I finally purchased a TT. I had flirted with the idea for a very long time but honestly I've heard a number of TT's at shows and at buddies homes and none of them moved me. Now obviously many many variables are involved. Lets start with, was their TT setup correctly (superlatively).., I don't know. Was the arm/cartridge combination simpatico.., again, I don't know. Was the phono preamp just so-so or great and if it was great was the cartridge loaded correctly.., you get my drift.

So with my digital down through the years easily besting (to my ears) the analog I'd been privy to, I found no reason to spend the money required to involve myself with analog. My former Bidat easily dispatched a SOTA Cosmos Vacuum TT in a head to head listening session. Ditto for my former Dynavox Dynastation.., same with my AMR DP777...etc.

At Axpona last year I listened to the $170K Clearaudio TT along with about $85K worth of Pass Amplification and perhaps $200K worth of JM Labs speaker and cabling only to be more moved by the sound from the Playback Design MPD-5 in the same room.

Finally I realized the only way I would ever find out for myself would be to purchase my OWN TT and make sure it was expertly setup and dialed-in. I had a rare chance to purchase a latest-revision-pristine example of a Graaf GM70 Phono Preamplifier. I have a soft spot for Graaf as Mr. Mariani simply builds the finest gear I have laid ears on. So now I have this phono pre sitting in the box for a few months when I see a SP 10 MK III come up for sale in Agon. So, I threw caution to the wind and contacted Chris at Artisan Fidelity; after some conversation I hung up having just commissioned the building of a SP10 MKIII Next Gen TT.

I was happy for about a month then the fear started to creep in, "what have I done?". What if this thing SUCKS!!!! and my digital system which is very very very good if I do say so myself stomps it!

During the build I researched and read tons of user reviews (I don't really pay attention to so-called pro reviewers) on arms and cartridges. I finally settled (with a lot of talking to Chris and other friends and a lot of late night web searching) on the Kuzma 4 Point and the Ortofon MC Anna.

So, here we are today and I have had my TT for a little over 3 weeks now and I have about 150 - 160 hours on the rig. Early on it sounded ok, you know.., good but nothing special. I liked it but my digital was fully up to the task and in some cases much better :) (now I'm scared)

Ok, so fast forward to 100 hours.., ok, I think I'm starting to understand all this analog hype :) better and better. now we are at 150 hours.., the word SUBLIME comes to mind. The spaciousness, openness and natural continuity of the analog is addictive. The dynamics seem to go on forever along with a naturalness that is very difficult to put into words. I did purchase the Furutech Demag, the Destat II, a scale..., all the toys to go along with it :) Again, I wanted to know for myself and the only way to do that was to take the plunge.

So how does my digital hold up? Well, my well run-in long time AMR DP777 has NOTHING to be ashamed of. It sounds great and I can easily go from the TT to the DP without too much shock (the AMR guys are big vinyl heads and use vinyl as a reference when designing) BUT... when I have two equally well recorded pieces of music (Best of Eva Cassidy comes to mind or Diana Krall Live in Paris 24/96 vs 180g/45) as good as my digital sounds the SP10MK III simply walks away. Again the digital is not trodden underfoot and indeed 20 seconds of the digital and you will be into it fully, but the analog rig beguiles with its effervescent ease and infinite continuity of musical flow.

Ok, so to end this long synopses.., I am now deeply into analog and have been going to local used record stores and burning up my cc on Music Direct and Acoustic Sounds...etc.

The folks at Artisan Fidelity are the real deal and they built me a museum quality +180 pound Porsche Basalt Black TT/piece of art that sounds AMAZING!!!!

I also ordered a Bassocontinuo Apogeo rack for the table which should arrive in about 2 weeks. I am enjoying my foray into the land of analog!!!

THANKS CHRIS!!!!!!!
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I was able to purchase the last copy of Modern Cool (MOFI) 45 LP from Elusive Disc and it was worth the rather high price I paid. The sonics are what we put all this money in our tables for :) I still have to catch up on some other recommendations (musci-wise) offered to me on this thread.
Peterayer: I think your question is very very valid. I have never heard that particular table so I have no comment :) I do think (and this is why I chose a 30 year old design) that the height of TT making was in the early 80's; TT's were the epitome of of the Audio Repro Art :)
Hi guys I wanted to say it has been real but I may be signing-off f this site for good. Tired of the policy changes and now Agon wants to hold your credit card info (can you say another risk of personal info being stolen). Also fed-up with being charged on the back end and front end or the crazy high insertion prices. If they do not require the cc to stick around I may keep the account open and drop in from time to time to share info or read something interesting but I have had enough; (the new member agreement which I read was too much).
Just found and bought a second (standby) SP10 MK3 power supply!!! very very rare to find the PS alone.
Chris has produced new lock rings for the SP10 MK3 made of brass and austenitic stainless steel. I had them in tonight for an in home audition. I compared the stock aluminum to the brass and steel using Vanessa Fernandez's outstanding album "Use Me" on 180g/45 vinyl.

Cutting to the chase it goes like this: SS, Aluminum (stock) and brass brings up the rear. The difference between the SS and the aluminum was quite large. The SS lock ring literally brought about a luxuriousness which simply is not present with the other lock rings in place. I could hear deeper into the music while the images were more fully developed.

These things are hard to put into words. My notes have comments like;
more finesse, fully developed images, very refined, rich sounding..etc. As good as my table sounded to me, adding the stainless steel lock rings took it into another realm.

When dealing with instruments which create electrical signals based on micrometer to nanometer movements of a stylus it is not hard to imagine that such seemingly simple changes can have a profound effect. I humbly suggest this as an upgrade to any MK3 owners :) I think the cost is going to be about $225.00. This is cheap in my opinion as I liken the difference akin to moving to a higher end cartridge or phono pre.

OH!!! if you don't have Vanessas' album mentioned earlier.., run.., don't walk.., to your favorite purveyor of records and get a copy. Cut from 30ips tape it is a wonderful recording with excellent musical choices :) simply stunning and up there with my MOFI copy of Modern Cool.
Got a chance last evening to listen to the new MK3 NGS with the new copper platter vs the stock platter. I was at Chris' house for the audition and I took my well run-in back up iFi iPhono in order to have one less variable in the mix. The arm was the Kuzma 4 point which I own but the cartridge was as VDH Colibri. The sound was as you might guess.., exceptional. I also brought my own albums Modern Cool (Mofi) and others I know very well. With the stock rubber platter mat the sound was very similar to what I get at home. With the copper mat.., I don't think it is possible to put into words how much better it is. That previous sentence is not hyperbole. Snappier dynamics, more air, more detail, longer decay on notes, more languid sounding while still sounding far more responsive. It made my 33 version of Cafe Blue sound more akin to a 45. I have already ordered the mat for my table. The stock mat sounds like you have literally introduced a layer of wool over your drivers compared to the copper platter; this implies no tilting up of the spectrum whatsoever, just a removal of the over-dampening he stock mat is (in direct comparison) obviously imparting.

The MK3 NGS itself is a sight to behold. I tried to lift one end and while I could (I weight lift) it is very very very heavy. I may have my unit converted to NGS but I am not decided yet :) MK3's just keep getting better!
I have purchased the new AF copper mat and lived with it long enough that I feel I can comment on the benefits it brings to my setup. First off it is far and away better than the stock mat, which in comparison seems to be overly damped. The new mat is not bright in any way it just allows a more vibrant life-like rendition of the music to flow. It is at once more transparent, detailed, energetic and 3 dimensional while offering longer decays.

I spent about 2 hours adjusting VTA/VTF for the new mat and of course as you may imagine that brought the perfomance of the performance even higher. Currently I have my VTA optimized for 180g discs.

After living with the mat for about a week and getting a good idea of its capabilities I decided to try it sans the JA Michel record clamp which btw works WONDERS when used with the stock mat (and tighten ONLY until you just feel the very very slightest bit of bite/resistance). I can not stress enough that tightening the JA clamp beyond the initial grab on the spindle will shut the music down (over damp).

The clamp with the copper mat sounds fantastic and far far better (as mentioned above) than the clamp and stock mat BUT, and no, I don't know why :) the new mat without any type of weight or clamp is really beyond what I wish to attempt to put into words. I don't want to sound like I have gone off the deep end but everything and I mean everything just gets that much better and it simply sounds real. I have some guys coming by this week to experience it for themselves. I will go on record (NPI) and say that the mat is a resounding success and is probably one of the best upgrades a MK 3 owner could make. Enjoy!!!
Sonofjim: We use clamps/weights exactly the same way. On some of my ~110gm albums slippage occurs if I forego a clamp/weight.

During the time I was optimizing the VTA for the new mat I pulled out the notebook and went off the deep end identifying the optimal VTA settings for 200/180/110-120gr vinyl knowing that the occasional 140-150gr album slots neatly between the 180 and 120gr positions I've identified on the Kuzma VTA tower. Turns out it makes a huge difference on the 110-120gr albums.
Downumder; I would humbly suggest you contact Chris. As he is building my NGS plinth and 401 TT, my platter was part of a package so I really don't know.
Ah, this thread brings back memories :) still loving my Technics Sp10 MK 3. I was playing it earlier today. I bought a (not yet delivered) technics SL1200 GAE to run as a dedicated mono table. 

I'm still planning to have my NG Table converted to a NGS. 

I've not once regretted my decision to purchase this table. It is the finest source I've yet to hear.

Glad you both are enjoying your new Garrards.
I know the feeling :) I would suggest an Ikeda 407 or a Kuzma 4 Point. You simply can't go wrong with either. Also the Reed 2P is quite worthy. 

I am am listening to my SP10 MK3 as I am typing this response, ShellyManne & His Men; sounds awesome!

My Technics Sl1200 GAE, arrived last Tuesday, waiting on the cartridge and very anxious to hear it.

Congrats again on your new table. Trust me, you are going to love it. Had mine for what is it now, 2 years plus? Never ever regretted one moment of the not so monetarily small purchase :) Chris is the real deal.
cleemartin:

We we have the same incredible arm/cartridge combination. My system literally brought Diana Krall and the hall into my home last evening on the 45 album All For You. I have the XRCD 24 version of this album ($55) and on my AMR DP 777 Signature Edition it sounds fabulous, in fact it literally makes me smile. On my my Kuzma 4 Point/ MC Anna equipped SP 10 MK 3 NG feeding an AMR PH77 with Bendix 6900 tubes.., Diana's in my house!