Are the Paradigm Founder Series really, really good speakers?

I only heard the stand mount model and I thought it was pretty bad honesty. Not the best room but on electronics costing well over $15,000.
The highs seemed wrong (unnatural) to me and the bass was pretty meh for me. I would honestly take a pair of Klipsch RP6000m over them and I am not a klipsch fan. I disliked them enough I don’t remember the details. Five minutes later I heard the B&W 805d3 on a Mac 275 and it was on another level entirely so to me the founders are not giant killers, just another speaker option.
The powered models could be interesting but the passive models would be a total pass for me without a very long demo. First impressions are often right.
The Revel Performa3 F208 is probably a much better speaker than the 100F. You can get a 60 day return from a few places online with them too (crutchfield etc). As always use your own ears.
Reading between the lines I don’t think Steve liked them that well either. https://youtu.be/QayNKbwlCEg

My point is their $2000 dollar stand mount could not outperform a $600 stand mount. They were not good at any price and no way a giant killer the marketing would lead you to believe.


They had JL subs running with them.


Revel, focal, Kef, B&w, all make stand mounts that have the same house sound as their floor standers in the mids and highs. What would make one think the 40b is any different?