Are audiophiles still out of their minds?


I've been in this hobby for 30 years and owned many gears throughout the years, but never that many cables.  I know cables can make a difference in sound quality of your system, but never dramatic like changing speakers, amplifiers, or even more importantly room treatment. Yes, I've evaluated many vaunted cables at dealers and at home over the years, but never heard dramatic effect that I would plunk $5000 for a cable. The most I've ever spent was $2700 for pair of speaker cables, and I kinda regret it to this day.  So when I see cable manufacturers charging 5 figures for their latest and "greatest" speaker cables, PC, and ICs, I have to ask myself who buys this stuff. Why would you buy a $10k+ cable, when there are so many great speakers, amplifiers, DACs for that kind of money, or room treatment that would have greater effect on your systems sound?  May be I'm getting ornery with age, like the water boy says in Adam Sandler's movie.
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Hah The most I've spent for speaker cable is $50. 
It's bulk unterminated Kimber 4tc that I've purchased as left-over from dealer. That Kimber made very positive difference vs. 14awg Monster wire.
Home audio business is "inflated" industry to pack fulish audiophile with bowl-full of wrong ideas to "invest". 
$10k cable is just the same as $10K jeans or $5k shoes. Ones devoted to fashion or celebrities should get dressed accordingly. Factually $10k cable isn't any different from $100 cable just like $50 jeans to $5k jeans, except perhaps looks, but functionality does not change with price. You can walk into restaurant in $50 jeans same way as you walk into restaurant with $5k jeans.
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Compared to what?

cheers,

geoff kait
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...compared to meal on your plate.
You're obviously unfamiliar with McDonalds' Two for $5 Menu.
That's true. I'd probably refuse to get familiar with such menu.
Not too much onto out-dining anyways 
whart930 posts06-15-2016 3:16pmDon’t take the "percentages" as literal, folks. I don’t, and perhaps I didn’t make that clear enough in my earlier post.
In algebra of complex numbers, each number can be represented with real and imaginary part similar to (5+3i) where 5 is real number and 3 is imaginary followed by letter ’i’. Don't take it for multiplication with variable. It's different case

geoffkait3,589 posts06-15-2016 5:26pmAct-too-ally both 5 and 3 are real numbers in Czarivey’s example. The expression 3i is, however, an imaginary number. Thus the square of the imaginary number 3i is -9.

As Al I totally agree! Please be also noted that MAGNITUDE of complex number that only has imaginary part IS totally NEGATIVE!
ISN’T THAT SUPER DARN COOL?
That seems like a cumbersome arrangement! And what makes you qualified to be the final arbiter of value?
1st math; 2nds facts; 3rd if there are facts why being arbiter after all?
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Freedom?? I like freedom to earn on foolish. I bet and you can call or fold or visa versa and that’s freedom.
inna1,970 posts06-20-2016 2:50pmI would propose - the winner takes it all.

It's VERY GOOD phrase!

I praise ones who can convince someone to give rather than stealing. Often they're called scammers, but to me, they only deserve respect for being smarter than others.

High-end home audio industry is BIG part of such methods to convince to spend fortune on something that maybe worth not more than 10...15% of actual sale price. It's an established mechanism that made casual wealthy consumers to spend fortune without knowing what they actually have to spend to achieve same level of performance. Moreover, it makes many go nuts on constant upgrades, mods, tweaks. 

If Geofkait has a customers lineup buying his products and making money or maybe fortune, it only deserves respect.

Winner takes it all after all and it's correct!

I’ve mentioned before "earning on foolish and ez way of living".
Therefore I’m here in USA and I like that type of earning (hey dontcha as well huh?) and making living and use it every day except nights weekends and vacations and so is lots of high-end manufacturers on something people go crazy and spend foolishly.

The foolish at the same time, having no other brains but anger and aggression thirst (similar to our future leaders hey personally don’t give a truck which one) goes onto someone else’s lands and dwellings and takes away the wealth by force to support economy (or tell me what else y’all know). Identically to audiophile industry brainwash, to justify such imperialistic actions, mass media works efficient to convince foolish to believe that it’s for their security and protection. It seems that the "goal-finale" is to have small number of people dominate large number of people by depleting knowledge sources and education so they can more easily believe to nonsense and brainwash globally at this point of time... There’s a lot evidence to it and ones that don’t notice global national retardation (xk’uz my French), is either ignorant or indeed foolish.

Therefore we’re in constant conflict between war and peace.

analogluvr ,
Did you ever try to sell bag of rocks for $$$?

It doesn't matter how you make your career. If that's the way than the way is found and the wealth is built by once again convinsing fool. The end result is all that matters. Same applies to wire and any other manufacturers. 
Kimber cable has affordable wires and mega-priced wires for foolish rich parents' children. Why should you blame them?

If there's a demand, why not supply?