Are audiophile products designed to initially impress then fatigue to make you upgrade?


If not why are many hardly using the systems they assembled, why are so many upgrading fairly new gear that’s fully working? Seems to me many are designed to impress reviewers, show-goers, short-term listeners, and on the sales floor but once in a home system, in the long run, they fatigue users fail to engage and make you feel something is missing so back you go with piles of cash.

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Showing 6 responses by mihorn

The big cause of listener’s fatigue is the un-natural sound. All audio systems in the world sound un-natural (except Wavetouch audio which is an only natural sounding audio system).

When we hear a natural sound, our ears and brain don’t need to work hard to understand. When we hear un-natural sounds, our ears and brain must adjust and work hard to comprehend the un-natural sound. While we hear un-natural sounds, we can’t understand natural sounds such as dog barking or noise from neighbor. So, our ears and brain must quickly change to a natural sound mode. It is hard to our brain and ears switching very fast between the natural and un-natural sound modes.

The un-natural sound makes a listener dizzy and fall asleep easily because the un-natural sound is very confused sounds. It is warning from our brain to our body to take a break. Once broken (distorted) audio signals can’t be restored and most signals are broken from the source (CD Player or DAC).

The characteristics of un-natural sound is confused, grain, harsh, bright, thin, vague, very forward glare, very far sound-stage (tunnel sound), etc. They hurt/irritate our ears always. And our brain and ears are too tired to make out from very confused and vague un-natural sounds. And it causes the listener’s fatigue. Alex/Wavetouch

ghasley

@mihorn All audio systems in the world sound un-natural (except Wavetouch audio which is an only natural sounding audio system).

I haven’t experienced your speakers first hand in my recollection. They may or many not be exceptional, HOWEVER, your statement that your product is the only solution is most certainly FALSE.

For decades i went to audio shows and stores to hear if there is an audio system that sounds close to an original music (natural sound). I found every audio systems sound glare and un-natural. So, I built the Wavetouch audio system which sounds very natural and closest to the original sound. You can hear my WT audio sound in my systems page - Click here.

Please point out which sound system(s) sounds natural and close to the original music and prove you are right. Alex/Wavetouch

ghasley

@mihorn

Certainly I didn’t intend to strike a nerve about your product, only to point out that your absolute statements that your way is the only way to achieve natural sound are absolutely wrong. I THINK you are asking us to click to your system page to click on youtube videos of your system? The only thing I know for certain is that the only way to find sound less consistent and meaningless than at an audio show is on Youtube.

I don’t think you trashed my products. You have a right for your opinion and my statement is too good to be true. ** This is my last post in this thread.

It seems improbable that we, Wavetouch audio, made a revolutionary audio system that big companies and smart scientists/engineers couldn’t make last 150 years. How I do it? Lots of crazy ideas and work. I know the world is not ready but it has to start some point. Anyway, the sound of future is here now. Everything has a beginning.

People have been relying on audio reviewers with their un-natural sounding audio systems. People had no choice until now because there is no reference. People had to merry-go-round upgrade forever. Now you have WT sound and the bar has been raised very high. The hi-end audio has some future now. Microphones can’t lie and videos are enough to evaluate the sound of audio systems. Alex/Wavetouch

cdc

Can you explain more? Agreed, I have been coming to the same conclusion and decided stereo is inherently unnatural.

 I'm saying when I turn on the stereo, my brain has to adjust from natural sounds of real life to this odd noise coming from boxes.

+ 1    Alex/Wavetouch

cdc

Can you explain more? Agreed, I have been coming to the same conclusion and decided stereo is inherently unnatural.

I often dislike the way my stereo sounds. when I turn on the stereo, my brain has to adjust from natural sounds of real life to this odd noise coming from boxes. Maybe people who listen to orchestra music do not have this adjustment problem..

People who listen orchestra music hear the same ear adjustment problem.

There are natural sounds (human voice, dog barking, baby crying, water flowing, etc.) and unnatural sounds. Human can’t hear a natural and unnatural sounds together simultaneously. If they are presented at the same time, the human ears must choose one of them. Audiophiles can switch back and forth (extremely fast) between natural and unnatural sounds due to years of practice with their audio systems. However, most people (non-audiophiles) ears are almost in natural sound mode.

In below video, if I didn’t say "hello", you could hear both (L & R) speakers fine with automatic audiophile’s ear adjustment. But saying "hello" (natural sound) holds your ears to stay in a natural sound mode and you are hearing what non-audiophiles hear.

The both speakers in videos were same sounding speakers. The right speaker is converted to a natural sound speaker by me. The left speaker is untouched. Almost all speakers (include $million speakers) in the world sound/behave like the left speaker.

Piano (Natural vs. Unnatural sound)

Orchestra (Natural vs. Un-natural sound)

Vocal - Coffee (Natural vs. Un-natural sound)

Alex/Wavetouch

cdc

@mihorn most people (non-audiophiles) ears are almost in natural sound mode.

Interesting observation. maybe that is why people think audiophiles are nuts. They’ve never entered the world of "unnatural sounds".

I believe so. My ears hurt always listening to other audio systems. I can switch my ears between natural and unnatural sound modes, but switching back to the natural sound mode is very fatiguing and gives me a bad feeling to my brain and whole body.

Right speaker is converted to a natural sound spkr by me

I can hear the improvement.How do you do this?

The Wavetouch sound guide on a speaker is the key. Alex/Wavetouch