ARC ref 5SE current or past owners


Hi
I have an option of buying a preowned ref5SE.
My amps are the Audionet MAX and my natural choice would be the Audionet top of the line pre but I don't have where to audition.
My current pre is the MBL based MC601 by music culture technologies.
I never thought I will go for a tube pre again but I can audition the ref5 probably next week so I will give it a shot.
What should I expect from the ref5 Se?
Previous owners - which pre replaced it and why?
Did anyone compare it to Audionet pre G2 by any chance ?
Thanks in advance to all repliers.
icorem

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Thanks
I will be able to audition. I'm hesitant as for the impedance matching with my amp in balanced.
Do you use it balanced or single ended ?
Hi again
I had the Ref5SE for home audition for the past 2 days.
As anticipated I had impedance matching problems with my Audionet MAX amps. In XLR - total mess but in RCA it worked fine when the volume was at 50 and up. It sounded then much better than my current pre but I won't take it because of these synergy problems. My lesson was however that i have much to upgrade in the preamp department. As previously said I might eventually buy blindly the matched Audionet preamp but until then I will try to audition some more. Any recs ?
BIF
When hooked to the RCA input the ref5 sounded very good but as I said the volume level was at 50 and up so I won't go for the ref5 as these limitations might cause problems in the future.

BDP24 - can you elaborate a little bit ? I didn't understand exactly what do you mean by "improve test bench specs". Do you think Audionet is trying to push the owners away from high output impedance tube preamps...?
Bif
I totally agree with you, but when other owners say that their volume level rarely go over 40, I think it has something to do with the impedance ratio between the units and the long IC between the amps and the pre.
I've yet to find a better solution but will probably audition the Constellation 1.0 line stage or buy blindly the Audionet pre g2...