If you like a musical and balanced sound,the sp 1000 is for you...especially whith redbook and sa-cd. |
What Hi Fi has said that the sp 1000 compares to the Estoric dv-50 and this months Home Cinema Choice has the best tested in order of preference.
1 Onkyo
2 Arcam
3 Marantz
4 Denon |
Tony,
The ranking is in the February issue on page 174 but the actual reveiw was 12-04.
Whith What Hi Fi saying the 1000 compares to the Estoric and Meridian player and one of the three German rags that all raved about the 1000 saying it compares to the Linn unidisk, I don't understand why more audiophools aren't trying an SP1000. |
Tony, I looked again at the rankings and its the 8400.
The only two personal audio comparisons I have seen on the 1000 and 9500 are Daltonlannys above and some poster on a UK board (Don't remeber which) that said he had both in home and kept the 1000.
I agree there is a lack of 1000 vs 9500 personal comparisons available anywhere that I can find.
I know Crutchfield is were I bought my 1000 and they have a 30 day return policy.
I beleive Music Direct has the 9500 with a 30 day return policy also if your interested in comparing the two personally.
There was a member at the Asylum that liked the 1000 better than his sa-14 for both redbook and sa-cd but I have no idea how the 9500 and sa-14 compare either.
For the record the other models were the Arcam DV79 and Denon 3910.
Also for the record the What HiFi October 04 comparison actually says that the Estoric was passed up by both the 1000 and Meridian player.
Although the Merdian was the overall winner, the reviewer felt the Onkyo edged it out videowise, and that the Onkyo was the "real star" of the three.
I don't buy on pro reviews either, but whens the last time you saw any rag pick a usually mid fi brand over the Estoric?
Greg |
Tony,
Back when I bought a 5900, I also bought a 8k pre/pro amp combo to try out multi channel hi rez and made 3 more custom speakers whith Scan speak drivers and all the best parts.
It turned out that after spending over 14k, I preffered most hi rez in 2 channel and ended up with overkill surround H/T speakers.
As far as the hi rez surround control goes, I am probably not the best person to answer this, but you can control over analog, speaker size and distance, and if you use the small setting, your stuck whith 80hz.
Don't know anything about how these settings work whith I link either. |
Actually, What HiFi october 04 said that the Onkyo SP1000 and the Merdian G-98 both passed up the DV-50.
It says the Merdian had a slight edge for audio, and the SP1000 had an edge for video and ranked them as so.
Onkyo SP1000 5 and the "real star" of the 3
Merdian G98 5
DV-50 4.5
Basically...they were shocked at how well the Onkyo did for both audio and video.
The Pioneer 59avi and Denon 3910 were placed in a lower tier than the above three players. |
Dbld,
Are you saying that none of the 6 pro extensive reviews were using revealing systyms?
Also no sync issues on mine or any of the review samples.
I can only speak for my comparison of the SP1000/3910/5900/modded 963sa and Modwright Signature 9000 es with all options including the more expensive Jensen power supply caps and bybees.
Using my just sold here Ram modded Sim I-5 and my very revealing custom made all Scan speak speakers with revelators and all the best parts,dedicated lines,Audience and VH flavor 4 power chords, Ap oval 9's and Az matrix ic's.
Maybe not among the very best set ups in hi end, but certainly good enough to hear differences among dvd based players.
The onkyo was far more musical than the Denons, along with having better bass and a deeper soundstage with more inner detail.
When one player has your toes tapping, and the other has you just listening, this equates to a prat advantage on the Onkyo.
They love Prat in the U.K and the 1000 has it in spades.
One of the German reviews had the sa-cd playback rated higher than redbook and dvd-a on the 1000, so that also needs to be factored in imo as these are universal players...not dedicated redbook players.
That review had the redbook playback rated 87% dvd-a 90% and sa-cd 95% I beleive.
These players were judged for build, picture quality, redbook and hi rez playback...not just redbook.
I do agree whith placing the Denon and Pioneer players in a lower tier for lack of build,musicality and the difference in picture quality on my 110 inch screen using the 1000 as compared to the 5900 and 3910..
At any rate, I believe any of the higher end dvd based players value will plummet once hi def dvd arrives this summer.
If not for this, I would consider one of the more expensive universals to at least compare for myself.
For now, I believe the DV-SP 1000 is by far, the best buy in a universal whith hi def dvd looming ever closer.
The next time you see a review comparing a Denon or Marantz ect player that sells for 1600.00 in the U.S. to an 11K Linn Unidisk or even the Merdian and DV-50.....please let me know. |
Dbld, I am not telling you anything except to not assume that none of the pro reviews used revealing systyms.
Also, the U.K. rags are a bit more honest than most U.S. rags imo.
I have been here since 2000 and should have known how posting this review might go over here.
Anyway, I personally don't care if the 1000 is only superior with video to the more expensive players as that is how it probably should be as far as cost goes.
But I absolutely dissagree that it has rolled off highs. this could not be further from the truth in my experience.
I do however agree that dvd-a is its weakest point , but its also my least used of the format by far. |
Kman0911,
I beleive the review comparison said the Merdian did have the edge for audio which is fairly easy to believe, but evidently they felt the Onkyo was so much better for video, they called it even overall.
Anyway, the latest DVD Ect just gave the SP1000 its seventh rave review giving it 98 out of 100. |
Make that eight glowing reviews as Home Theater Choice has also seen the light in there new issue. |
Rmaidenburg,
You are the very first person on any audio based board to ever mention having lip sync issues on an SP1000.
You are also the very first person that EVER said the audio was anything but great...so this should tell everyone that you probably have never even heard or seen a SP1000.
Audio Girl, maybe when you grow up, you can change your name to audio Lady, until then, your name fits well newbie. |
Rmaidenburg, I said an audio based board...you know like this one, AA or Audiocircle were you will find zero mention of sync issues from any sp 1000 owner.
You will also not find any "troll like" comments about the sp 1000 sounding terrible. |
Audio Girl,
I gaurantee your systym sounds better than mine at this time, thats not the point.
My 2 channel systym has been mostly sold and currently being changed and hopefully for the better.
Better = sonically pleasing to me and not to compete whith yours, or any other set up.
You obviously take exception to me posting about a favorable comparison of a normally mid fi brand to your player, when you should be directing your anger elsewhere.
I said to not shoot the messenger, and you have done anything but, ever since.
So enjoy your set up and maybe direct your anger at the reviewer instead of the messenger. |
Ok people,
There are like 8 people at AVS in a poll that have or had a sync problem with a couple of them trying more than one player adding to the total.
Again..... nobody on any audio based board has ever mentioned having sync problems until now to my knowledge.
There are how many thousands of the sp1000's sold around the world with zero sync problems, and in fact the creator of the sync thread has no problems at AVS.
None of the 7 pro reviews seem to have a sync problem either.
I use an all digital amped set up for H/T using both coaxial and optical in a bi amped set up with 110 inch plus screen, and no sync controls with zero sync problems.
Audio Girl, there are no reviews of the sp 1000 that are not glowing and I am a contractor whith plenty of documented experience whith other players....lol
I paid full list for the 1000 and feel its worth every penny.
The only real fact is that you were never involved in any 1000 thread over the last few months up until your player was mentioned....since then, you have been evidently threatened by a review, which in your own opinion, is just paid advertising any way.
The only thing I posted were reviews, and never did I state that they were facts based on my own comparisons.
I....again, have no problem at all believing that the Merdian player is sonically better than the 1000 as even the review says the merdian had the edge for audio as I already stated several times if you actually read the posts instead of reading more into them than needed.
The only thing I have ever personally posted as my own personal opinion about the 1000, was that it has the best video I have ever seen on any player, and the best audio from a 2.5k or less universal......thats it.
This info was posted at Audio Circle were nobody seems to disagree, and in fact the only personal audio comparisons I have seen posted at an audio based board up to now, had owners liking the 1000 better than there Marantz sa-14 and Sony xa777es for redbook and sa-cd.
Dave, if the Wolfson dacs are obsolete, I guess the top Accuphase players are obsolete also as they use the same dacs, and trying any player out for yourself goes without saying at any audio board imo. |
Audio Girl, go to videogon...do a search for the Linn Unidisk...there is only one so even you should be able to find it if you can see through all that anger.
Now look at the picture drama queen and notice the player that is hooked up behind the Linn, thats an Onkyo sp 1000 and is the unit that is replacing the Linn.
Don't take my word... just ask.
You see you drama queen newbie, that particular Linn owner prefers the SP1000....no matter what your inmature drama queen opinions are, they are obviously not shared by everyone.
BTW... both the owner of the Linn and the guy selling it for him like the SP1000 better than the Linn in direct comparison.
The rest of the audio world does not always share your imature newbie opinions or your terrible attitude either thank god. |
